Alpine Audax Classic 2007



flyingdutch said:
'TRIMPS' ???

http://www.ismarttrain.com/articles/TRIMPS.html

TRIMPS = exercise duration x average HR x a HR-dependent intensity weighting factor
Since HR is related to oxygen uptake or metabolic rate (Fig. 1), the product of the first two
factors in the above equation is proportional to the amount of energy expended, or (since
efficiency is relatively constant), the amount of work performed. The third term then takes into
account the intensity of the exercise, since many physiological responses (e.g., glycogen
utilization, lactate accumulation) increase non-linearly with increasing intensity.
 
MikeyOz said:
nice, I forgot all about that, found myself on film number 11 although my wife managed to get a couple of photos as well as some of the "Giant Kangaroos' with the very noticeable assets... :) They were pretty funny

hey, you must have gone through about the same time as me, also on roll 11. It's funny, they didn't set up until late - 12MD so the faster 70km riders were already off Buffalo and past by the tim that they set up.
 
On Jan 29, 3:59 pm, ProfTournesol <ProfTournesol.2l5...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> flyingdutch Wrote:
>
> > 'TRIMPS' ???http://www.ismarttrain.com/articles/TRIMPS.html

>
> TRIMPS = exercise duration x average HR x a HR-dependent intensity
> weighting factor
> Since HR is related to oxygen uptake or metabolic rate (Fig. 1),



The relationship isn't very consistant or reliable though, as many
other things also affect HR.
I'd call it a 'pretty rough guess', at best.

Kinda like those VO2max estimates that get bandied around every now
and then ..
 
ProfTournesol said:
hey, you must have gone through about the same time as me, also on roll 11.

yep, I didn't see anybody early on taking photos... where was the photo taken anyway ? I have been trying to figure out the time and location, but memory is just c&*p
 
MikeyOz said:
yep, I didn't see anybody early on taking photos... where was the photo taken anyway ? I have been trying to figure out the time and location, but memory is just c&*p
After the Buffalo climb, on the way back, prob about halfway b/n the toll gate and the roundabout. I'm on Roll 8 :)
 
yeah that would be why I can't really remember... I was just looking forward to getting back at that stage....

what route did everyone take ? and also what time did you start, my brother and I started in the 6.40 group, i'm curious to know how far back the line went for the 6.20 group. we were basically back down to where the service road leading into the Tube, started going up, was it a lot longer than that ?
 
MikeyOz said:
yep, I didn't see anybody early on taking photos... where was the photo taken anyway ? I have been trying to figure out the time and location, but memory is just c&*p

on the way back from Buffalo (seen in the background) at the top of the only real hill before Porepunkah.
 
Bleve said:
On Jan 29, 3:59 pm, ProfTournesol <ProfTournesol.2l5...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> flyingdutch Wrote:
>
> > 'TRIMPS' ???http://www.ismarttrain.com/articles/TRIMPS.html

>
> TRIMPS = exercise duration x average HR x a HR-dependent intensity
> weighting factor
> Since HR is related to oxygen uptake or metabolic rate (Fig. 1),



The relationship isn't very consistant or reliable though, as many
other things also affect HR.
I'd call it a 'pretty rough guess', at best.

Kinda like those VO2max estimates that get bandied around every now
and then ..

true, but in the absence of a powermeter, it's the bast guess I've got:)
 
Walrus said:
I rode the 200 in 8:40, very happy. Great day, well organised.

GREAT time, Walrus!
You are hereby in the front half of 'BRx' :D:D:D

PS show up so we can dribble on your LOOK-ey :D
 
flyingdutch said:
GREAT time, Walrus!
You are hereby in the front half of 'BRx' :D:D:D

PS show up so we can dribble on your LOOK-ey :D

that's why LOOKs are carbon, they won't rust with the dribble:)
 
flyingdutch said:
GREAT time, Walrus!
You are hereby in the front half of 'BRx' :D:D:D

PS show up so we can dribble on your LOOK-ey :D
Thanks Dutch, I was really happy with the time. Ride time was about 8:15, so I was happy to have kept all breaks to under 30 mins. Here's me on the way back from Buffalo, madly trying to shove something in my back pocket.

http://www.bicyclephotos.com.au/gallery/index.php?pageId=100&id=142144&start=8&lightbox=&search_mode=


I'll try to show up at a BR...it's just hard with family 'n stuff. My training for the Alpine only consisted of commuting 4 days a week, plus 4 trips to the hills (Donna Buang and Nongs)...that's how much I struggle to get out on weekends.

ps. will post a new pic of the LOOK, complete with newly fitted FSA K-Force Compact Carbon cranks....looks sweeet! :D
 
Walrus said:
Thanks Dutch, I was really happy with the time. Ride time was about 8:15, so I was happy to have kept all breaks to under 30 mins. Here's me on the way back from Buffalo, madly trying to shove something in my back pocket.

http://www.bicyclephotos.com.au/gallery/index.php?pageId=100&id=142144&start=8&lightbox=&search_mode=


I'll try to show up at a BR...it's just hard with family 'n stuff. My training for the Alpine only consisted of commuting 4 days a week, plus 4 trips to the hills (Donna Buang and Nongs)...that's how much I struggle to get out on weekends.

ps. will post a new pic of the LOOK, complete with newly fitted FSA K-Force Compact Carbon cranks....looks sweeet! :D

Hiya Walrus

Since my photo is the next but one after yours I guess you were part of the group of 5 or 6 that worked the last 12 k's into Bright.

Thanks for the assistance, much more pleasant and a lot quicker than soloing into the headwind would have been.

By the way, I reckon your ride time was 8:35, not 8:40 :)

Cheers
 
Unregistered said:
Hiya Walrus

Since my photo is the next but one after yours I guess you were part of the group of 5 or 6 that worked the last 12 k's into Bright.

Thanks for the assistance, much more pleasant and a lot quicker than soloing into the headwind would have been.

By the way, I reckon your ride time was 8:35, not 8:40 :)

Cheers
Hah, yeah that was me. I cranked it over the top of that hill after Buffalo and a nice group formed behind me. You weren't the one on the Casati were you? We started working well together but I lost you guys on the smaller hill about 3km out of Bright...just spent. :eek:

My time would have been closer to 8:35, but I stopped at the finish line to give my little boy a hug...he had a shirt on that said "My Dad Rocks"...cheesy but :cool: . So I robbed myself a few minutes before I got down to the tent to punch in.
 
Walrus said:
Hah, yeah that was me. I cranked it over the top of that hill after Buffalo and a nice group formed behind me. You weren't the one on the Casati were you? We started working well together but I lost you guys on the smaller hill about 3km out of Bright...just spent. :eek:

My time would have been closer to 8:35, but I stopped at the finish line to give my little boy a hug...he had a shirt on that said "My Dad Rocks"...cheesy but :cool: . So I robbed myself a few minutes before I got down to the tent to punch in.

I was on a Wilier. Too knackered to notice what bike anyone else was riding, busy just trying to hold wheels by that stage :(

Nice story about the support team at the finish line :) Mine met me out the front of our accom on my way out to Buffalo and stocked me up with jelly snakes and flat coke - definitely the key to knocking 20 mins off my previous times up Buff in the 200 ;)
 
Speaking of support, there was a fantastic vibe from the public this year, cheering riders that they didn't know and generally being supportive. I got cheered, clapped and revved up about 10 times throughout the day from total strangers on the roadside. Great stuff.

Did anyone else see that group coming back into Bright (from Buffalo) with those plastic "clappe" hands? About 10 of them all flapping the things like crazy :p . That's one of the best parts of the Alpine Classic, the atmosphere that the marshalls and public create.
 
Walrus said:
Speaking of support, there was a fantastic vibe from the public this year, cheering riders that they didn't know and generally being supportive. I got cheered, clapped and revved up about 10 times throughout the day from total strangers on the roadside. Great stuff.

We were having tea at the Cosy Kangaroo when the 'lanternes rouge' came in.
The rider had a twin moto escort, much applause from both sides of Gavan St and two ambos as back markers. Wonderful. ;)
 
Walrus said:
Did anyone else see that group coming back into Bright (from Buffalo) with those plastic "clappe" hands? About 10 of them all flapping the things like crazy :p . That's one of the best parts of the Alpine Classic, the atmosphere that the marshalls and public create.
It was actually one of my mates and his crew, who'd finished the 130 and went outside to applaud those coming back from Buffalo.

Obviously too much energy - they should've given the 200 a bash. ;)
 
Thoroughly enjoyed it the AAC. I was made to feel welcome every step of the way, even gladly paid above the advertised rates for my pizza on Saturday night.

Definitely be back next year... just trying to tee up the accomodation now :)
 
Walrus said:
Speaking of support, there was a fantastic vibe from the public this year, cheering riders that they didn't know and generally being supportive. I got cheered, clapped and revved up about 10 times throughout the day from total strangers on the roadside. Great stuff.

Did anyone else see that group coming back into Bright (from Buffalo) with those plastic "clappe" hands? About 10 of them all flapping the things like crazy :p . That's one of the best parts of the Alpine Classic, the atmosphere that the marshalls and public create.
we spent the previous week in Bright, it was almost deserted! I think that sadly the AAC was really the only big event of the summer there. I think that many people cancelled their holidays there once Hymie told people not to go to the NorthEast:-(
 

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