Armstrongs near miss investigated

[Java Man]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> [email protected] (brian roth) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > Some journalists went out to the scene of Belokis fall, where Armstrongs tire tracks were still
> > visible. He was fourtunate that a tractor ramp was placed nicely for him to exit the road. He
> > skirted a 2 foot deep culvert by 10 inches, and there where numerous sharp rocks and stiff wheat
> > shoots in the feild. Finally the hill was much steeper than it appeared.
>
> Wasn't this all PLANNED by US Postal?
>
No, not by the cycling team . . by the Post Office. Did you know that all those USPS workers who
have gone on shooting rampages KNEW the truth about the USPS TDF conspiracy, and were killed to
silence them?

Rick You heard it here first!

 

[Kurgan Gringion]

"Edward Waffle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote in message ...
> >
> >"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> We should apologize for our misguided intentions. Send them a bill for
> the
> >> Marshall Plan adjusted to present value and call it a day.
> >
> >
> >
> >The Marshall Plan was very popular (as well it should have been).
>
> There were a many reasons for the Marshall Plan. One was to keep Soviet Communism and the Red Army
> out of Greece. Another was to keep
Moscow-aligned
> Communist Parties in Italy and France from winning elections.
>
> Yet another was to help rebuild the economies of western Europe so that U.
> S. manufacturers and farmers would be able to export there.
>
> None of it was particularly altruistic, nor should it have been. The Marshall Plan was Cold War
> geopolitics in action.

I would call it a lesson learned more than Cold War geopolitics.

After WW1, the victors implemented the punitive Treaty of Versailles and eventually got rewarded
with a bitter German nation, paving the way for Adolph ****** and WW2.

 

[G]

Memphmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> The people that seem to dilike Lance the most are the Europeans. An American is going to tie the
> wins in a row record held by non Americans.
>
> The French just hate the Americans. I noticed a funny thing the other day. Their was this french
> rider who broke way or nearly the entire race. Rode for a french team, in the biggest french race.
> Yet he was racing on a "Scott USA" bike. How much of an insult is this to the french? Do they not
> build any bikes good enough to race in the Tour???????

The so called "Lance hating posts" in rbr are, as far as i can see, are from American posters. I
guess the Europeans don't give a damn enough.

If you follow rbr, there are several threads about the lack of any evidence of anti-Americanism
in France.

But you can't let truth get in the way of a good troll, eh Memph?

BTW, Scott is Swiss, "Scott USA" is called Marketing.

GK

 

[Charlie C.]

[email protected] (Jbenkert111) wrote in news:[email protected]:

> I'm sure President Bush and his cronies are behind all these conspiracies. That'll teach the
> French not to back him.

Here's something I posted early. Don't let me tell you I told you so!

Fact: Ulrich tested positive for drugs which caused him to miss a year of training for the tour.
Coincidence?

Fact: Two of Lance's main rivals (Tyler and Levi) are removed from contention on day one of the
Tour. Coincidence?

Fact: Simoni is about to quit the tour. Coincidence?

Fact: Beloki wrecks out of the tour when he proves to be a real contender for the Yello Jersey.
Coincidence?

Fact: Armstrong takes a shortcut but the Tour doesn't penalize him (and now, apparently, there was a
ramp placed strategically where the wreck occured). Coincidence?

Obviously the wreck was planned to eliminate Beloki.

Clearly if I were Vinokourov or Mayo I'd be very carefull right now. They should make sure no one
can tamper with their bikes or their food as there's OBVIOUSLY a consipiracy to get Lance his fifth
tour. They should also make sure that there are numerous witnesses when they produce their urine
samples to ensure that they don't get switched with Heroin or LCD laced replacements.

Clearly it's just about oil and making Haliburton, the Presidend and Vice President of the U.S. and
members of the Trilateral Commission rich.

It's SO obvious.

Charlie in Houston (Who's watching the Tour from the bridge of a captured flying saucer inside Area
51. The alien video technology lets me see through Kirsten Gum's clothes. Unfortunatly it lets me
see through Bob Roll's as well.)

 

[David Ryan]

one of the six billion wrote:
>
> "Theodor Seiz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > Again, money cant buy class ...
> >
> > And please - its not the French hating USA - its the rest of the world hating the USA.
> >
> >
>
> And justifiably so.

I'd be interested in hearing them.

 

[David Ryan]

Edward Waffle wrote:
>
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote in message ...
> >
> >"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> We should apologize for our misguided intentions. Send them a bill for
> the
> >> Marshall Plan adjusted to present value and call it a day.
> >
> >
> >
> >The Marshall Plan was very popular (as well it should have been).
>
> There were a many reasons for the Marshall Plan. One was to keep Soviet Communism and the Red Army
> out of Greece. Another was to keep Moscow-aligned Communist Parties in Italy and France from
> winning elections.
>
> Yet another was to help rebuild the economies of western Europe so that U.
> S. manufacturers and farmers would be able to export there.
>
> None of it was particularly altruistic, nor should it have been. The Marshall Plan was Cold War
> geopolitics in action.

The problem is that most of the rest of the world, and even half the USA *wanted* to be some kind of
socialist/communist so they could all let somebody else do the work. So the MP doesn't win US any
brownie points either.

 

[Raptor]

Joe Hurley wrote:
> The other possibility is that Lance and the boys scouted out the course earlier in the year while
> training. Knowing how often crashes happen, a prudent rider (Armstrong) would, while scouting the
> course, be on the lookout for escape routes if something like what happened should happen.
>
> There's an old saying--the really successful people aren't lucky; they make their own luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe

MAYBE if LANCE had a race-scouting staff of 50, they'd pick up on something like

Naw, there are just too many logical reasons that wouldn't or couldn't happen. He was just dang
lucky and skilled. Your first theory is more plausible.

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could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

 

[Amg]

> There's an old saying--the really successful people aren't lucky; they
make
> their own luck.
>

Ansel Adams used to quote Louis Pasteur: "Chance favors the prepared mind."

-- AMG

 

[Didier A. Depir]

Charlie C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] (brian roth) wrote in

> Fact: Two of Lance's main rivals (Tyler and Levi) are removed from contention on day one of the
> Tour. Coincidence?

Leipheimer a real contender? That was funny!

Didier

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[Stewart Fleming]

Raptor wrote:

> MAYBE if LANCE had a race-scouting staff of 50, they'd pick up on something like
>
> Naw, there are just too many logical reasons that wouldn't or couldn't happen. He was just dang
> lucky and skilled. Your first theory is more plausible.

Maybe the pace notes for that descent include something along the lines of: "If the guy in front of
you crashes at this point, you can veer left, go down this track (watch the culvert). It's a bit
rocky, but rideable. Watch the drop-off at the end, but you won't lose any time. Always thinking..."

 

[One Of The Six]

"David Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> one of the six billion wrote:
> >
> > "Theodor Seiz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > > Again, money cant buy class ...
> > >
> > > And please - its not the French hating USA - its the rest of the world hating the USA.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > And justifiably so.
>
> I'd be interested in hearing them.

If that were true, you would have no problem seeing why on your own.

 

[David Ryan]

one of the six billion wrote:
>
> "David Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > one of the six billion wrote:
> > >
> > > "Theodor Seiz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > > > Again, money cant buy class ...
> > > >
> > > > And please - its not the French hating USA - its the rest of the world hating the USA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > And justifiably so.
> >
> > I'd be interested in hearing them.
>
> If that were true, you would have no problem seeing why on your own.

I just wanted to demonstrate what a pile of BS they are.

 

[Kurgan Gringion]

"David Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> one of the six billion wrote:
> >
> > "David Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > > one of the six billion wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Theodor Seiz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Again, money cant buy class ...
> > > > >
> > > > > And please - its not the French hating USA - its the rest of the world hating the USA.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And justifiably so.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested in hearing them.
> >
> > If that were true, you would have no problem seeing why on your own.
>
> I just wanted to demonstrate what a pile of BS they are.

"hate" is a strong word, too strong for the state of world opinion right now.

It is a fact however, that the great majority of world opinion has been against our actions of the
last year.