Greatest Athlete of All Time?



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Van Hoorebeeck Bart <[email protected]> wrote:
> BTW languages-impairedness must be strong when even in that degree of 'fandom', there is no sign
> of studying the object's language.

> OTOH, approaching all passing Dutch folks anywhere in Dutch to inquire on Leontien would
> appear creepy.

OK, so what is the Dutch word for 'dumbass'?

Bob "Seeking to not be language impaired" Schwartz [email protected]
 
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote:

> have these in rbr are obvious I think: a) I'm not an expert in any field of cycling, b) I don't
> really race myself, which I guess means: I really don't, c) rbr is very much US oriented which is
> fine but makes me an outsider, d) the crowd is not very appreciative of simple honest answers, re:
> the agressive mr. drippy, e) There Is Really Nothing New To Be Said, rbr is a social spin-off of
> cyclingnews.com now, f) in general, in my opinion, newsgroups like rbr are more gatherings of
> like-minded people, or people which happen to have at least one interest in common, than
> specialist Q&A forums. So I mostly read rbr for fun and when I do chyme in it mostly is for fun
> too, yes.

Well, I agree and sympathize with all this, but also rbr can be a pretty good source of information
about racing, believe it or not: training, eating, technique, culture, and obscure historical
anecdotes.

In fact, even the slightly dumb questions often get answered well, It's only the thin-skinned ones
like Mr. Drippy and the Bianchi-breaker who can't take a bit of teasing along with an honest answer
that get a real drubbing.

With apologies to Jeff Jones, sometimes when I read the same topic discussed in rbr and in the
letters page of cyclingnews.com, it surprises me how much more sense rbr makes, even if
substantially ruder. (Short form: sometimes the letter-writers to CN are a bunch of
gear-obsessed tools.)

Ben

P.S. J. Chen is a fast learner, I bet in a year he is ahead of several rbr residents.
 
On 19 Sep 2003 15:39:13 -0800, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> rbr can be a pretty good source of information about racing, believe it or not: training, eating,
> technique, culture, and obscure historical anecdotes.

It definitely can be, maybe even is regularly. Of course, it is an essential part of bike culture to
talk about these things. Rbr would be no fun if it were only a bunch of cyclists talking about Al
Qaeda - Ba'th Party connections. Would it?

> it surprises me how much more sense rbr makes, even if substantially ruder. (Short form: sometimes
> the letter-writers to CN are a bunch of gear-obsessed tools.)

Yeah, the letter-writers are more a rbt/urc kind of crowd, aren't they? I don't spend much time
reading the cn letters page.
 
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:18:02 GMT, Nev Shea wrote:
> but Div 1 racing is very much European oriented, so that makes you an insider for us dumbass
> Americans

It's all a matter of perspective I guess. I don't feel like an insider, just because I see all the
racing live on tv, or even because I'm European. Besides, if anything, it makes me a relative
insider to pro bike racing w.r.t. most other rbr readers, which in turn makes me more of an outsider
overhere :) But I don't want to make too big a deal out of this because it is also part of the
attraction. Exobiology can be fun.
 
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:53:55 +0200, I wrote:
> Exobiology can be fun.

Sorry, that was a stupid and, more importantly, very nerdy remark.
 
"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 19 Sep 2003 15:39:13 -0800, Benjamin Weiner wrote:

> > it surprises me how much more sense rbr makes, even if substantially ruder. (Short form:
> > sometimes the letter-writers to CN are a bunch of gear-obsessed tools.)
>
> Yeah, the letter-writers are more a rbt/urc kind of crowd, aren't they? I don't spend much time
> reading the cn letters page.

Nor do I :)

Jeff
 
news:p[email protected]...
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> >>>I thought you Euros were into this sort of thing. Perhaps the lack of mountains in the
> >>>Netherlands explains it.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
> >> What about the Cauberg :) ?
>
> Stewart Fleming wrote:
> > It's not even 8,000m LONG let alone high.
>
> :) = Humour (see:
> http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/emoticons.html )
>
> Kurgan should consider inventing an emoticon for dumbass.

Dumbass -

The following is my emoticon for that: Dumbass
 
"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 19 Sep 2003 15:39:13 -0800, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
>
> > > it surprises me how much more sense rbr makes, even if substantially ruder. (Short form:
> > > sometimes the letter-writers to CN are a bunch of gear-obsessed tools.)
> >
> > Yeah, the letter-writers are more a rbt/urc kind of crowd, aren't they? I don't spend much time
> > reading the cn letters page.
>
> Nor do I :)
>
> Jeff

lol

which lucky person gets the job of editing it?
 
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:25:55 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> The rejection pile makes interesting reading sometimes :)

I bet the 'Git Huge 2000' joke for example evoked some good reactions. Maybe you should give a few
anonymous quotes!
 
Donald Munro wrote:
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>
>>>>I thought you Euros were into this sort of thing. Perhaps the lack of mountains in the
>>>>Netherlands explains it.
>
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>
>>>What about the Cauberg :) ?
>
>
> Stewart Fleming wrote:
>
>>It's not even 8,000m LONG let alone high.
>
>
> :) = Humour (see:
> http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/emoticons.html )
>
> Kurgan should consider inventing an emoticon for dumbass.

The whooshing sound you heard was my humour going straight over your head...
 
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:53:55 +0200, I wrote:
>> Exobiology can be fun.
>
> Sorry, that was a stupid and, more importantly, very nerdy remark.

Well, it seems positively brilliant after reading a few of Justin's Bianchi posts.

NS
 
"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:18:02 GMT, Nev Shea wrote:
> > but Div 1 racing is very much European oriented, so that makes you an insider for us dumbass
> > Americans
>
> It's all a matter of perspective I guess. I don't feel like an insider,

<snip>

How can you be considered an outsider when you beat Boogerd every week in sprint training?
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> How can you be considered an outsider when you beat Boogerd every week in sprint training?

That is true. Jeff was just saying I talked like Lance (in a mail), but the comparison only holds on
paper because *I* can outsprint Boogerd.
 
Ann Trason is the most gifted female athlete of all time. Look at her results against men.

Lindsay wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:10:54 GMT, "SM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I know this is going to cause some discussion but who do you think is the best cyclist of all time
>>and where on the list of "Greatest Athletes of
All
>>Time" would they be?
>
>Babe Didrickson Zaharias, hands down greatest athlete of all time.
>
>Cyclist, Eddie.
>
>Lindsay
>----------------------------
>"One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
>difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
>remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."
>
>P.J. O'Rourke
 
SM wrote in message <[email protected]>...
>I know this is going to cause some discussion but who do you think is the best cyclist of all time
>and where on the list of "Greatest Athletes of All Time" would they be?
>
>
To me the most pure athletic event is running. Among runners, the abilities of ultra-distance
runners clearly stand out. These athletes by far outperform the average athlete. Anyone who has run
50 miles or more in a race knows why ultradistance running is different. Consider the following
standout performances:

Yiannis Kouros ran 188 miles 1038 yards in 24 hours.

Ann Trason ran 91 miles 1258 yards in 12 hours.

There are others, but these two ultradistance athletes stand out, particularly Ann, who is the best
100 mile female mountain runner by far.

all time outdoor bests: http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-141-147-896,00.html mens records:
http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-141-147-1096,00.html womens records:
http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-141-147-1097,00.html

- Tony
 
"qTrader" <qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message

> To me the most pure athletic event is running. Among runners, the abilities of ultra-distance
> runners clearly stand out. These athletes by far outperform the average athlete. Anyone who has
> run 50 miles or more in a race knows why ultradistance running is different. Consider the
> following standout performances:
>
> Yiannis Kouros ran 188 miles 1038 yards in 24 hours.
>
> Ann Trason ran 91 miles 1258 yards in 12 hours.

Amateurs. Here's the real deal: """ Monk completes 24,800-mile 'enlightenment' running ritual

A Buddhist priest dubbed the marathon monk has completed a 24,800-mile running ritual in Japan after
seven years. """

He had quite a good help for his motivation, though:

""" The last monk to complete it returned in 1994. Traditionally, the monks who can't complete the
task must take their own lives either by hanging or disembowelment. """

See: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_820930.html
 
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:57:22 GMT, "qTrader" <qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ann Trason is the most gifted female athlete of all time. Look at her results against men.

Ann seems to only participate in one sport. She has a long way to go to catch up with Babe.

Lindsay
----------------------------
"One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."

P.J. O'Rourke
 
....amusing (and freaky). 7 years for 24,800 miles is nothing for the *average* kenyan marathoner
who would log that easily running 100+ mile weeks for only 5 years.

enoch wrote in message ...
>"qTrader" <qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> To me the most pure athletic event is running. Among runners, the
abilities
>> of ultra-distance runners clearly stand out. These athletes by far outperform the average
>> athlete. Anyone who has run 50 miles or more in a race knows why ultradistance running is
>> different. Consider the
following
>> standout performances:
>>
>> Yiannis Kouros ran 188 miles 1038 yards in 24 hours.
>>
>> Ann Trason ran 91 miles 1258 yards in 12 hours.
>
>Amateurs. Here's the real deal: """ Monk completes 24,800-mile 'enlightenment' running ritual
>
>A Buddhist priest dubbed the marathon monk has completed a 24,800-mile running ritual in Japan
>after seven years. """
>
>He had quite a good help for his motivation, though:
>
>""" The last monk to complete it returned in 1994. Traditionally, the monks who can't complete the
>task must take their own lives either by hanging or disembowelment. """
>
>See: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_820930.html
 
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