Ken [NY) wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:45:52 GMT, Jack Dingler <[email protected]>
>claims:
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>>>>I thought only a few thousands were found in the mass graves from the
>>>>Iraqi / Iran war that the US funded, supported and oversaw?
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>>> My suggestion: find better news sources.
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>>I've listened to a brain damaged drug addict name Rush Limbaugh. He
>>agrees with you. The sources I've used include the Dallas Morning News
>>and CBS.
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> You seem to have a pretty good sense of humor, so I am going
>to assume the CBS thing is a joke. Please tell me Dan Rather is not
>one of your sources.
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You can add in NBC, etc... It was mainstream news until it became taboo
to discuss it.
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>>>>Yeah, Yugoslavia is strategically located near the Caspian Sea. Unrest
>>>>there can cause trouble for the oil industry in the region.
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>>> Besides extremely ugly sweaters, what do the Balkans produce
>>>that is vital to US interests? And don't say the Yugo. They had no
>>>WMD, they never even thought to attack our cities. Why then are we
>>>still there since the wonderful UN troops are there already, cringing
>>>behind buildings.
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>>There is oil there. There are also oil pipelines there.
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> I think this is another example of poor news sources. Bill
>Clinton in 1999 employed an oil embargo on Yugoslavia. That, in case
>you live in Palm Beach County, Florida, means they IMPORT oil.
>http://www.cnn.com/US/9904/20/us.kosovo.01/
> I still want to know if they produce anything vital to
>American interests. Those sweaters can't be that important.
> One more thing - what exactly is wrong with getting oil for
>our country if the Balkans actually had oil? I never figured that one
>out.
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Exactly, that's what imperialism is about. It's about colonizing other
soveriegn nations and taking their resources. There's lots of historical
precedent to this.
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>>> We also traded with Germany and Japan before the war. Much of
>>>the steel we sold to the Japs ended up landing on our battleships at
>>>Ford Island, and the Germans used tank suspension systems invented
>>>here in the US. (Christy). The Rolls-Royce aircraft engines sold to
>>>Germany by England came back powering the bombers that hit London.
>>> I could list more if you wish. But it is nonsense in the end
>>>to blame our own country for terrorism, if that is what you are
>>>getting at.
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>>Even during WWII Prescott Bush continued to sell munitions to both
>>Germany and the US. So we're in agreement. It's not really about
>>security, but commerce.
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> Ok, I'll buy that. We were attacked by Japan for precisely
>that reason - commerce and lack of oil supply. Germany expanded during
>WW2 for similar reasons.
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>>Check out the UN website and read the archived reports, going back to
>>the late 1980s Ken. I did. It's fascinating stuff and tells a different
>>story than the national radio drug addict.
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> The UN is another poor source, given the huge UN Oil-for-food
>scandal that top UN leaders, the French, the Germans and the Russians
>were involved in:
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If you think the whole batch is spoiled by a few bad apples and none of
their agency reports are correct, then it follows that anyone who's ever
been involved with an organization that has had some corrupt members,
can be trusted. For instance, the US government has had it's share of
bad apples, therefore, anyone who's ever been paid by the US Gov is
untrustworthy... At least your logic leads there.
If you think about it, the reports that show that the Iraqi situation
had turned around, would've been bad news for the corrupt members of the
organization. It's the opposite of what they would've wanted to hear
about. In fact, the continued need for sanctions is something they would
have pressed to keep the gravy train rolling. So convincing folks like
you that a problem still persisted would've been the corrupt goal for
lining their pockets, making folks like you a pawn for their evil schemes.
Jack Dingler
