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B. Sanders
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"waxxer" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> This is due to the wonderful properties of titanium. These flexes known as cycles will go on
> forever without damage to the material.
Not quite forever; but a long, long time.
> So geometry and material makes a huge difference in my mind.
> If it were aluminum it would have broken by now.
Not true. Take a look at the 20- and 30-year-old passenger jets that make up a large portion of the
world's airlines. They're made almost entirely of aluminum, and yet they rarely fail even with
constant use, in some cases
24/7 for years on end. Can you imagine how many cycles those parts have experienced? Much more than
your bike ever will.
> Take an aluminum can and bend it back and forth. It fails quickly. Take a steel can and will
> survive 3 times the number of cycles.
When you bend a piece of metal, that is called "plastic deformation." Well-engineered bike frames
should never experience this type of deformation under normal use. Note that I said "normal use."
Ti and steel will fail with some warning. Aluminum is more likely to just snap; but if it's well
engineered, it won't fail from fatigue.
> The Colnago on the other hand is so tight and springy it feels unreal.
What is the frame material? Carbon?
> My Cannodale would literally pound my hands, shoulders and ass
relentlessly.
> It was simply brutal. When I came across road irregularities I would
grimace
> knowing it was going to HURT!
I have experienced the same thing on *all* of the Cannondales that I've ridden and owned. I felt
bruised after a ride - and could hardly make myself saddle up the next day. Ouch!
-Barry
> This is due to the wonderful properties of titanium. These flexes known as cycles will go on
> forever without damage to the material.
Not quite forever; but a long, long time.
> So geometry and material makes a huge difference in my mind.
> If it were aluminum it would have broken by now.
Not true. Take a look at the 20- and 30-year-old passenger jets that make up a large portion of the
world's airlines. They're made almost entirely of aluminum, and yet they rarely fail even with
constant use, in some cases
24/7 for years on end. Can you imagine how many cycles those parts have experienced? Much more than
your bike ever will.
> Take an aluminum can and bend it back and forth. It fails quickly. Take a steel can and will
> survive 3 times the number of cycles.
When you bend a piece of metal, that is called "plastic deformation." Well-engineered bike frames
should never experience this type of deformation under normal use. Note that I said "normal use."
Ti and steel will fail with some warning. Aluminum is more likely to just snap; but if it's well
engineered, it won't fail from fatigue.
> The Colnago on the other hand is so tight and springy it feels unreal.
What is the frame material? Carbon?
> My Cannodale would literally pound my hands, shoulders and ass
relentlessly.
> It was simply brutal. When I came across road irregularities I would
grimace
> knowing it was going to HURT!
I have experienced the same thing on *all* of the Cannondales that I've ridden and owned. I felt
bruised after a ride - and could hardly make myself saddle up the next day. Ouch!
-Barry