On 20/3/03 2:44 pm, in article
[email protected], "Mark Hickey"
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[email protected]> wrote:
> "G.T." <
[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I did enjoy my freedom until it ended today.
>
> If by "freedom" you mean the administration not carrying out the will of over 70% of the
> citizens, sure.
>
>> I'm not sure how Iraq's missiles which can't even reach Israel effected OUR freedom before.
>
> Greg, you gotta spend more time studying the issue. You saw what a couple ounces of anthrax did to
> the country. Imagine 8,500 liters sold to the highest bidder as one example of the threat.
And where did that anthrax come from? Afghanistan? Iraq?? .... If you thought about the issue you'd
realise that Saddam isn't going to be selling anything to people who see him as an "infidel".
>> But now with the whole world at best barely tolerating us and at worst hating us those fascists
>> in the cabinet will continue to erode civil liberty in the name of security.
>
> Liberty is defined differently by different people. You may believe it includes freedom from
> airport security inspections (for example) while others would argue it means freedom from those
> who would carry weapons onto airplanes. Abraham Lincoln summed it up best I think: "The shepherd
> drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as a liberator,
> while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty."
>
>> All so Mr Cheney's Halliburton can make a few billion dollars rebuilding Iraq this year.
>
> When that happens, you let us know so we can help you gloat. I find it curious that there would be
> any question about those being sent in to get Iraq back on it's feet having oil backgrounds. Let's
> see, what is Iraq's economy based on? Oil, maybe?
Well obviously - there'd be no point in attacking somewhere that grows bananas if your pals aren't
fruit executives, would there? Iraq is in the firing line precisely BECAUSE Dubya and cronies will
fill their boots in the "reconstruction".
>> All so Bush Jr can redeem Bush Sr.
>
> So you feel that the first gulf war failed because we didn't continue into Baghdad and take out
> Saddam? I know it's tempting to reduce this very complicate issue to a sandbox fight in the school
> yard, but it's also naive to do so.
>
>> All so hypocritical Kristians can feel good about killing the infidels.
>
> That's disgusting, Greg. It shows you have NO grasp on the reality of the situation. By the way,
> you might want to read a little history that doesn't come from sources that draw horns on GWB's
> photo. You might find that just about every military effort the US has made over the last 20 years
> has been to AID Muslims. We helped the Afghan mujahadin during the Soviet invasion (one in
> particular doesn't seem to be too thankful) we liberated Kuwait after the Iraqi invasion in 1990,
> we helped the Somali Muslims in Mogadishu, helped the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against the
> Serbs. We also liberated Afghanistan from the Taliban and Al Qaeda thugs.
How absurd can you get? "Helping the mujihadeen" is a pro-Muslim act? Pull the other one! For what
it's worth, girls were being educated during the Soviet occupation. Helping the mujihadeen was just
a way to oppose the Soviets. In case you've forgotten, the Taliban were seen by the Afghans as the
least bad of a set of poor choices, and a way to end the civil war. Now the Taliban have gone, what
is happening in Afghanistan? Turning into Switzerland? I don't think so! Doesn't make the news that
much, does it? Any idea what's happening in Kosovo lately? Well, to give you a clue there's a KLA
leader on trial in The Hague just now - and it's not on traffic violations. But if course you
conveniently forget the biggest military effort made by the US which is the arming and support of
Israel - oppressor of Muslims par excellence. (Though I have to admit that they are also quite busy
oppressing Christians.)
>
> Every Christian I know is praying that loss of life on both sides will be minimal.
>
>> All so W doesn't have to drill for oil in Arctic. No wonder W let 9-11 happen.
>
> In a war situation, you have hawks and doves, and then you have what I'll call gulls. That's short
> for "gullible". ;-)
>
>> We will never see freedom in this country again as long as there is an Iraqi, Muslim, or
>> Arab alive.
>
> I'm sorry you think so (or think anyone else thinks so - it's not clear what you're trying
> to say).
>
>> Goodby peace, goodby freedom, hello Armageddon,
>
> Hey, deja vu. Wasn't that the lament before the first gulf war? Wasn't that the lament before we
> went into Afghanistan? Did I miss "Armageddon" the first time (or was it just the goofy Bruce
> Willis space movie)?
I guess it's a local thing - if you get on the wrong end of a bomb that's pretty much like
Armageddon.
J.
