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  1. Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    This time I knew it had to be the diet. I went to my doctor and asked
    him for pain medicine and quit the diet. The pain went away. This past
    February my wife and I went on Atkins together. This time I did not
    experience pain, but she did. It was horrible, and she had to go to the
    hospital. They ran a whole bunch of tests but found nothing. She quit
    the diet, and the pain went away. Recently I was diagnosed with
    diabetes and decided to follow a low-carb but not necessarily
    Atkins-type diet. I didn't do any two-week indroduction period and
    started the diet tkaing in 75-100g of carbs per day. I have been
    steadily losing about three pounds per week. My wife also started
    dieting. Her carb intake was greatly diminished and was comparable to
    mine, give or take about 20g of carbs. Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

  2. Gallstones irritated by the increase in fat perhaps? Other than that, no
    idea. Been doing Atkins since 2001 and had no problems.

    Tara

    "Palmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    bad I had to go to the hospital. ......... Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

  3. On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:36:51 GMT, Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    |after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    |bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    |anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    |months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    |This time I knew it had to be the diet.

    Here's a link for you: http://members.cox.net/pmarengo/trL.JPG

  4. Marengo said:


    On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:36:51 GMT, Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    |after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    |bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    |anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    |months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    |This time I knew it had to be the diet.

    Here's a link for you: http://members.cox.net/pmarengo/trL.JPG

    Very funny, dumbass. Now FOAD!

  5. 1. Gall bladder- if this is the problem, decrease the fat intake
    2. sugar alcohol-sugar alcohols can cause horrible digestive pain.

    Palmer said:

    Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    This time I knew it had to be the diet. I went to my doctor and asked
    him for pain medicine and quit the diet. The pain went away. This past
    February my wife and I went on Atkins together. This time I did not
    experience pain, but she did. It was horrible, and she had to go to the
    hospital. They ran a whole bunch of tests but found nothing. She quit
    the diet, and the pain went away. Recently I was diagnosed with
    diabetes and decided to follow a low-carb but not necessarily
    Atkins-type diet. I didn't do any two-week indroduction period and
    started the diet tkaing in 75-100g of carbs per day. I have been
    steadily losing about three pounds per week. My wife also started
    dieting. Her carb intake was greatly diminished and was comparable to
    mine, give or take about 20g of carbs. Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

  6. Palmer said:


    Okay here's my situation.

    ::snip::

    I just googled the problem, and found this website:

    http://www.emmadavies.net/content/blog/ferncottage/the-porker-update.aspx#symptomsketosis

    Severe Ketosis

    If you experience the following symptoms, you need to ease back on the
    coconut oil or eat a few carbs!
    Severe stomach pain
    Diarrhoea
    Nausea
    Throat tightening or palpitations (caused by adrenaline surges as your
    body struggles to raise blood sugar)

    After reading this, I had my wife get on the scale, and she said she'd
    lost eight pounds in about a week's time. I was taking off a pound a
    day when I experienced the stomach pains. This has to be it. Thanks
    for the replies.

  7. Palmer said:
    Palmer said:


    Okay here's my situation.

    ::snip::

    I just googled the problem, and found this website:

    http://www.emmadavies.net/content/blog/ferncottage/the-porker-update.aspx#symptomsketosis

    Severe Ketosis

    If you experience the following symptoms, you need to ease back on the
    coconut oil or eat a few carbs!
    Severe stomach pain
    Diarrhoea
    Nausea
    Throat tightening or palpitations (caused by adrenaline surges as your
    body struggles to raise blood sugar)

    After reading this, I had my wife get on the scale, and she said she'd
    lost eight pounds in about a week's time. I was taking off a pound a
    day when I experienced the stomach pains. This has to be it. Thanks
    for the replies.

    Depending on how overweight you and your spouse are a pound a day might
    not be too outre at the outset. From your description of both you and
    your wife's stomach pain I'd be more inclined to look for a common food
    you both ingested. A very common culprit (which, BTW, will cause the
    entire list of symptoms listed above attributed to Severe Ketosis) is
    one of the sugar alcohols. Avoiding them altogether is the safest way
    to go.

    Carmen

  8. In several years I never heard anything like this.

    1. Did you read the book?

    2. Could there be food poisoning from a food you only eat when dieting? ?
    ?

    There have been individuals who would stuff themselves to the point of
    nausea. However, they were doing what they imagined the diet was rather
    than the true diet.

    "Palmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    This time I knew it had to be the diet. I went to my doctor and asked
    him for pain medicine and quit the diet. The pain went away. This past
    February my wife and I went on Atkins together. This time I did not
    experience pain, but she did. It was horrible, and she had to go to the
    hospital. They ran a whole bunch of tests but found nothing. She quit
    the diet, and the pain went away. Recently I was diagnosed with
    diabetes and decided to follow a low-carb but not necessarily
    Atkins-type diet. I didn't do any two-week indroduction period and
    started the diet tkaing in 75-100g of carbs per day. I have been
    steadily losing about three pounds per week. My wife also started
    dieting. Her carb intake was greatly diminished and was comparable to
    mine, give or take about 20g of carbs. Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

  9. Carmen said:


    Palmer said:
    Palmer said:


    Okay here's my situation.

    ::snip::

    I just googled the problem, and found this website:

    http://www.emmadavies.net/content/blog/ferncottage/the-porker-update.aspx#symptomsketosis

    Severe Ketosis

    If you experience the following symptoms, you need to ease back on the
    coconut oil or eat a few carbs!
    Severe stomach pain
    Diarrhoea
    Nausea
    Throat tightening or palpitations (caused by adrenaline surges as your
    body struggles to raise blood sugar)

    After reading this, I had my wife get on the scale, and she said she'd
    lost eight pounds in about a week's time. I was taking off a pound a
    day when I experienced the stomach pains. This has to be it. Thanks
    for the replies.

    Depending on how overweight you and your spouse are a pound a day might
    not be too outre at the outset. From your description of both you and
    your wife's stomach pain I'd be more inclined to look for a common food
    you both ingested. A very common culprit (which, BTW, will cause the
    entire list of symptoms listed above attributed to Severe Ketosis) is
    one of the sugar alcohols. Avoiding them altogether is the safest way
    to go.

    Carmen

    I honestly don't think it was the sugar alcohols. The reason being is
    that up until this dieting excursion I had never had any contact with
    sugar alcohols when on Atkins. For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.
    Now I am eating the sugar alcohols with no ill effect, but she isn't.

  10. Straight protein? No green leafies? Maybe it was constipation.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Palmer <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    |
    | I honestly don't think it was the sugar alcohols. The reason being is
    | that up until this dieting excursion I had never had any contact with
    | sugar alcohols when on Atkins. For me and for my wife the first time
    | she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.
    | Now I am eating the sugar alcohols with no ill effect, but she isn't.

  11. No, never. The only time I ever have stomach distress is when I overeat
    carbs.

    --
    Cheri

    Palmer wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    mine, give or take about 20g of carbs. Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

  12. Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but protein and a
    little coolwhip??

  13. Jeri said:


    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but protein and a
    little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for me
    alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

  14. Palmer said:
    Jeri said:


    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool
    whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but
    protein and a little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for
    me alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

    No it's not all good. You should be getting most of your carbs from low carb
    veggies.

  15. Jeri said:


    Palmer said:
    Jeri said:


    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>
    > For me and for my wife the first time
    > she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool
    > whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but
    protein and a little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for
    me alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

    No it's not all good. You should be getting most of your carbs from low carb
    veggies.

    Hey if I'm losing weight and my blood sugar is normal, who am I to think
    I'm doing something wrong? A simple scan of google has revealed that a
    minority of those in the induction phase of Atkins suffered from severe
    abdominal pain, and yet this information was lost on some of you as well
    as on my wife's doctor. Since ceasing the diet (but still eating
    sugar-free candy with sugar alcohols in it), her pain has begun to
    subside. But what do I know? I found information on the net which led
    me to form a hypothesis (that because some people suffer severe
    abdominal pain as a result of severe ketosis, then if my wife's pain is
    the result of ketosis she should have lost a considerable amount of
    weight over the last week), and then I tested the hypothesis by getting
    her on the scale, which showed my hypothesis to be true. As for her
    doctor, I guess his medical degree gives him the right to be wrong with
    authority, since he told her the pain wasn't because of ketosis. Funny
    how each time she and I went into ketosis, we both had severe abdominal
    pain, and the pain always went away after we got out of ketosis.

  16. In article said:
    Jeri said:


    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but protein and a
    little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for me
    alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

    What about your low-carb, high fiber vegetables? Spinach, broccoli,
    etc. The first times around, if you were only eating meat and cheese,
    no wonder you got stomach pains. Do the low-carb junk foods you eat now
    have any fiber in them? Sugar-free candy (well, cough drops the one
    time I tried them, but with the same sugar alcohols) give me severe
    stomach pains every time, even if I just eat one.

  17. Palmer said:
    Jeri said:

    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but protein and a
    little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for me
    alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

    Sometimes, when I eat sugar-free candy, I get an intense stomach pain as
    if it was appendicitis. I wanted to go to the hospital, except I
    realized I was eating stupidly.

    I have pretty much stopped eating that sugar free candy stuff.

    I suggest that you do whatever you want, because you will do whatever
    you want.

    Good luck,

    Jim

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  18. In article said:
    Jeri said:


    Palmer <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For me and for my wife the first time
    she tried it, it was always straight protein and maybe some cool whip.

    Wait a minute........are you saying you're eating nothing but protein and a
    little coolwhip??

    No I meant the first time we both tried it at the same time, and for me
    alone those two times before I met my wife. Today I'm eating, in
    addition to the meats and cheeses, low-carb bread, sugar-free candy,
    low-carb pizzas, even half an ear of corn...it's all good!

    Well, if you're eating this stuff, you're not doing Atkins, so good luck
    with whatever WOE you ARE doing.

    --
    ***************************
    Wayne Crannell
    Atkins+ 10/21/01
    249/141
    ***************************

  19. Well, from the things you mentioned eating, you don't have a clue about
    Atkins or low carb in general. Corn is something to be eaten very late in
    the plan, if at all. Green leafies are necessary from day one. Have your
    wife try again and take a dose of (sugar free) Metamucil every day without
    fail. Even if you are eating your veggies properly this is a great assist
    to proper functioning of the digestive tract.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Palmer <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | Hey if I'm losing weight and my blood sugar is normal, who am I to
    | think I'm doing something wrong? A simple scan of google has
    | revealed that a minority of those in the induction phase of Atkins
    | suffered from severe abdominal pain, and yet this information was
    | lost on some of you as well as on my wife's doctor. Since ceasing
    | the diet (but still eating sugar-free candy with sugar alcohols in
    | it), her pain has begun to subside. But what do I know? I found
    | information on the net which led me to form a hypothesis (that
    | because some people suffer severe abdominal pain as a result of
    | severe ketosis, then if my wife's pain is the result of ketosis she
    | should have lost a considerable amount of weight over the last week),
    | and then I tested the hypothesis by getting her on the scale, which
    | showed my hypothesis to be true. As for her doctor, I guess his
    | medical degree gives him the right to be wrong with authority, since
    | he told her the pain wasn't because of ketosis. Funny how each time
    | she and I went into ketosis, we both had severe abdominal pain, and
    | the pain always went away after we got out of ketosis.

  20. What exactly are you eating when you supposedly do Atkins? Give us an
    example of what you would eat in a day.

    TC

    Palmer said:

    Okay here's my situation. About three years ago I went on Atkins, and
    after 7-10 days I developed this horrific pain in my stomach that was so
    bad I had to go to the hospital. They ran tests but couldn't find
    anything wrong. I quit the diet and the pain went away. About six
    months later I tried Atkins again, and once again the pain came back.
    This time I knew it had to be the diet. I went to my doctor and asked
    him for pain medicine and quit the diet. The pain went away. This past
    February my wife and I went on Atkins together. This time I did not
    experience pain, but she did. It was horrible, and she had to go to the
    hospital. They ran a whole bunch of tests but found nothing. She quit
    the diet, and the pain went away. Recently I was diagnosed with
    diabetes and decided to follow a low-carb but not necessarily
    Atkins-type diet. I didn't do any two-week indroduction period and
    started the diet tkaing in 75-100g of carbs per day. I have been
    steadily losing about three pounds per week. My wife also started
    dieting. Her carb intake was greatly diminished and was comparable to
    mine, give or take about 20g of carbs. Yesterday she started
    experiencing those stomach pains, and she wanted to go back to the
    hospital. I think it's a waste of time and money because I know it's
    the diet. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this, and can
    anyone explain why someone on a low-carb diet might experience this
    pain?

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