Poll: What is the best XC/Freeride tire?



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N Simpson

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Opinions wanted.

- Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires' fault.

Simpson
 
"N Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires' fault.


I thought they were pretty slow. They're incredible in other ways, but tires are a
compromise. Using Fires while climbing on loose dirt is almost cheating.
 
N Simpson wrote:
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'
> fault.
>
> Simpson


I think my Intense System 4s would fall into that category. I think they're
great, but definitely not a fast XC tire. Lighter than some others too.

Matt
 
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:56:09 -0400, "N Simpson"
<[email protected]> scribbled:

>Opinions wanted.
>
>- Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires' fault.
>
>Simpson


I use some Panaracer Fire XC's too. I'm also slow. Damn the tires. ;)

-Slash
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N Simpson wrote:
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'
> fault.
>
> Simpson


I have Panaracer Fire XC's on one bike and Hutchinson Mosquitos on another.
I have also used Scorpions. So far the best tire for me has been the
Panaracers. I like the grip. I don't race so I'm not caught up on the
speed issue.

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N Simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'
> fault.
>
> Simpson


I use IRC Mythos and they're definitely fast, but
I'm slow though...

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"Slash" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:56:09 -0400, "N Simpson"
> <[email protected]> scribbled:
>
> >Opinions wanted.
> >
> >- Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'

fault.
> >
> >Simpson

>
> I use some Panaracer Fire XC's too. I'm also slow. Damn the tires. ;)
>
> -Slash
> --
> "Ebert Victorious"
> -The Onion


I'm using the Nokian Gazzaloddi Jr's, they are 2.6 inch Downhill and Free
ride tires.
They turn in loose sand and dirt so well I'd swear I'm on rails sometimes.
They are so big, they essentially add another inch to your suspension, and
swallow up small to medium sized roots like they are not even there.
They have huge protection to prevent pinch flatting, so free riders should
have few accidental jump related flats. I'm slow up long downhills that I
can't coast halfway up, and I get to blame this on the tires weighing 1600
grams each! Its like buying a great tire that excuses you from having to
climb fast- a great deal at any price :)


Here's a site I found to be good for tire information...
http://www.themudzone.com/tire/tire_site_files/reviews/index.html


Dan V
 
"N Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires' fault.
>
> Simpson


It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.

JD
 
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> "N Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message

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> > Opinions wanted.
> >
> > - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'

fault.
> >
> > Simpson

>
> It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.
>
> JD


That tire doesn't work for me for the conditions and trails we have here. I
stick to the Panaracer Fire XC Pro's 2.1 or Continental Vertical Pro 2.3 for
the riding here.

- CA-G

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"Carla A-G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "N Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Opinions wanted.
> > >
> > > - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires'

> fault.
> > >
> > > Simpson

> >
> > It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.
> >
> > JD

>
> That tire doesn't work for me for the conditions and trails we have here. I
> stick to the Panaracer Fire XC Pro's 2.1 or Continental Vertical Pro 2.3 for
> the riding here.


I have to agree that the Vertical Pro works really well out East. It
works well in loose or loamy conditions for me here, but suck on
hardpack for heavier riders because the small knobbies are squirrely.
I just started running the Conti 2.3 Gravitys on my Marin and they are
superior on hardpack and in loamy conditions. I have to wait until
Summer to see how they do on wet roots/rocks.

JD
 
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> > > > Opinions wanted.
> > > >
> > > > - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the

tires'
> > fault.
> > > >
> > > > Simpson
> > >
> > > It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.
> > >
> > > JD

> >
> > That tire doesn't work for me for the conditions and trails we have

here. I
> > stick to the Panaracer Fire XC Pro's 2.1 or Continental Vertical Pro 2.3

for
> > the riding here.

>
> I have to agree that the Vertical Pro works really well out East. It
> works well in loose or loamy conditions for me here, but suck on
> hardpack for heavier riders because the small knobbies are squirrely.
> I just started running the Conti 2.3 Gravitys on my Marin and they are
> superior on hardpack and in loamy conditions. I have to wait until
> Summer to see how they do on wet roots/rocks.
>
> JD


I have Hutchinson Pythons right now and I have to say they suck mule ear for
the conditions
here (some mud, clay, roots, soft dirt, etc). I've slipped out sideways
twice now (never have with my Panaracers) and lose traction regularly on
upslopes.

I have Panaracers on my hardtail and I love those.

Marty (can't wait for the Pythons to croak)
 
"Marty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have Hutchinson Pythons right now and I have to say they suck mule ear

for
> the conditions
> here (some mud, clay, roots, soft dirt, etc). I've slipped out sideways
> twice now (never have with my Panaracers) and lose traction regularly on
> upslopes.


True. They are not strong in mud or wet clay. They can give out when
leaning on them.

>
> Marty (can't wait for the Pythons to croak)
>


JD's statement about where you live is the best advice in this thread. I
would add that time of year can make a difference as well. If you haven't
ridden Pythons long, you may find you like them better as the summer
progresses and things dry out. They are a great all round tire, but not my
favorite in the winter or spring for the reasons you mention.
 
> I have Hutchinson Pythons right now and I have to say they suck mule ear
for
> the conditions
> here (some mud, clay, roots, soft dirt, etc). I've slipped out sideways
> twice now (never have with my Panaracers) and lose traction regularly on
> upslopes.
>
> I have Panaracers on my hardtail and I love those.
>
> Marty (can't wait for the Pythons to croak)
>
>


IRC Mythos or Panaracers
 
TM wrote:

> JD's statement about where you live is the best advice in this
> thread. I would add that time of year can make a difference as well.
> If you haven't ridden Pythons long, you may find you like them better
> as the summer progresses and things dry out. They are a great all
> round tire, but not my favorite in the winter or spring for the
> reasons you mention.


Ditto. I use Pythons over the summer months when things dry out and the
gravel, the leaf mulch and clay is dry and hard. They're good and fast at
that time of the year. I've been trying a bunch o' winter tyres but haven't
found a real goodie yet. Scorpions work reasonably well. (gonna try the
Fire XC when I can find a tubeless set). You need something with knobs in
the mud and on the leaf mulch. Pythons certainly wouldn't be my choice to
use in those conditions.
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"N Simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Opinions wanted.
>
> - Panaracer Fire XC is what I run, but I'm slow. Must be the tires' fault.
>
> Simpson


In the WNC area, most XC is very technical and people run a wide front
(2.3ish) and a narrow rear (1.85 to 2.1). I haven't found a better
performing tire than the Fire XC Pro, but I had a problem with the
knobs ripping off. I'm riding Seracs now and they're not as grippy as
the FXCPs but the slide is predictable and they re-grip quickly.

Panaracer has their new Cinder out, I'd like to run the 1.85 (or 1.9)
in the rear and the 2.3 up front.
 
"Westie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I've been trying a bunch o' winter tyres but haven't
> found a real goodie yet. Scorpions work reasonably well.


I've been using Mosquitoes and I've been really pleased.

>(gonna try the
> Fire XC when I can find a tubeless set).


But, I've never used these and they seem to have a following...
 
"TM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Westie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I've been trying a bunch o' winter tyres but haven't
> > found a real goodie yet. Scorpions work reasonably well.

>
> I've been using Mosquitoes and I've been really pleased.
>
> >(gonna try the
> > Fire XC when I can find a tubeless set).

>
> But, I've never used these and they seem to have a following...
>


Traction's good but lots of people report the knobs ripping off, including
me. My personal current setup is Motoraptor 2.4 in front, Fire XC in back.

Greg
 
> It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.
>
> JD


What's the terrain like?
Any similarity to SoCal?

A bunch of my friends swear by Motoraptors too, but I've never tried them.

-Bruce
 
"Bruce Edge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > It depends on where you live. The WTB Motoraptor 2.4 is king here.
> >
> > JD

>
> What's the terrain like?
> Any similarity to SoCal?
>
> A bunch of my friends swear by Motoraptors too, but I've never tried them.
>


Badass out here for a front tire. These days I'll run just about anything
on the rear.

Greg