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Edward Dolan

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"RonSonic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[...]
> Fox is a third tier cable channel, not the voice of anyone's government.
> All
> they have to do is not be nastier than the **** on comedy central. I don't
> recommend you get your news or opinions from shouting heads.


Bill is a blooming idiot of the first rank. He has been brain washed by far
left propaganda. You will never get any sense out of him. He is like a child
in his intellect. His brains are scrambled, probably permanently. He is more
to be pitied than condemned. However, his emotional instincts seem pretty
sound to me. Both Bill and I tend to ramble, but I am consicous of it when I
do it and I do it with intention.

As to your comment on Fox News, it is not quite what you say it is. There is
the commentary which I will admit is mostly shouting heads these days, and
then there is the straight news programs. They are two separate and distinct
formats. I do not ever confuse one with the other and I don't think anyone
else does either.

As to Rush Limbaugh, yes he is primarily an entertainer, but you can learn
an awful lot about politics by following him. I think he is just great when
I agree with him and then I think he is a nut when I disagree with him.

The days when the liberal media could dominate the political culture of the
country are now gone forever. The NY Times has become just another liberal
rag and is no longer held in awe by anyone. My, how things have changed from
only a few decades ago!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:06:27 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"RonSonic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>[...]
>> Fox is a third tier cable channel, not the voice of anyone's government.
>> All
>> they have to do is not be nastier than the **** on comedy central. I don't
>> recommend you get your news or opinions from shouting heads.


>As to your comment on Fox News, it is not quite what you say it is. There is
>the commentary which I will admit is mostly shouting heads these days, and
>then there is the straight news programs. They are two separate and distinct
>formats. I do not ever confuse one with the other and I don't think anyone
>else does either.


I gave up on finding straight news on Fox. They do very little of it.

>As to Rush Limbaugh, yes he is primarily an entertainer, but you can learn
>an awful lot about politics by following him. I think he is just great when
>I agree with him and then I think he is a nut when I disagree with him.


Rush makes me cringe most when he agrees with me.

>The days when the liberal media could dominate the political culture of the
>country are now gone forever. The NY Times has become just another liberal
>rag and is no longer held in awe by anyone. My, how things have changed from
>only a few decades ago!


Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
and sanity will again prevail.

Ron
 
RonSonic <[email protected]> wrote:

>I gave up on finding straight news on Fox. They do very little of it.


It's funny though. When I see an article on bias at the NYT or LAT or
CBS or NBC, it's always got details of what they said, and how it was
wrong. OTOH, the critiques of Fox seem to always be general in
nature. Granted, Fox IS right of center (or at least some of the
talking head shows are), but I'd be curious to see some specifics of
where Fox mislead their audience (seriously).

>Rush makes me cringe most when he agrees with me.


Or vice versa, of course. ;-)

>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>and sanity will again prevail.


I hope so. The current situation is no good for anyone, IMHO. I'd
like to see a return to a two party system where they COULD meet in
the middle.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
 
RonSonic wrote:
>
> Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
> the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
> and sanity will again prevail.
>
> Ron


I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
Reality bites. Defending Bush just makes you look bad.
Sorry.
Bill Baka
 
Mark Hickey wrote:

> I hope so. The current situation is no good for anyone, IMHO. I'd
> like to see a return to a two party system where they COULD meet in
> the middle.
>
> Mark Hickey



Politicians- at least Illinois politicians- seem to only meet in the
middle to divvy up the spoils.

Regards,
Bob Hunt
 
Bob wrote:
> Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>
>>I hope so. The current situation is no good for anyone, IMHO. I'd
>>like to see a return to a two party system where they COULD meet in
>>the middle.
>>
>>Mark Hickey

>
>
>
> Politicians- at least Illinois politicians- seem to only meet in the
> middle to divvy up the spoils.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Hunt
>

I was born there and I thought that the only name for a mayor was
Richard Daley, Jr., third, etc. Weird politics in that state.
Bill
 
"RonSonic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eek:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:06:27 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"RonSonic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>[...]
>>> Fox is a third tier cable channel, not the voice of anyone's government.
>>> All
>>> they have to do is not be nastier than the **** on comedy central. I
>>> don't
>>> recommend you get your news or opinions from shouting heads.

>
>>As to your comment on Fox News, it is not quite what you say it is. There
>>is
>>the commentary which I will admit is mostly shouting heads these days, and
>>then there is the straight news programs. They are two separate and
>>distinct
>>formats. I do not ever confuse one with the other and I don't think anyone
>>else does either.

>
> I gave up on finding straight news on Fox. They do very little of it.


The best commentary in the world is O'Reilly. He makes liberals look like
the jackasses that they are.

>>As to Rush Limbaugh, yes he is primarily an entertainer, but you can learn
>>an awful lot about politics by following him. I think he is just great
>>when
>>I agree with him and then I think he is a nut when I disagree with him.

>
> Rush makes me cringe most when he agrees with me.


That is because you are a liberal. The only cure for it is to die and go to
Hell. So why don't you?

>>The days when the liberal media could dominate the political culture of
>>the
>>country are now gone forever. The NY Times has become just another liberal
>>rag and is no longer held in awe by anyone. My, how things have changed
>>from
>>only a few decades ago!

>
> Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to
> shun
> the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or
> realign
> and sanity will again prevail.


The sooner the Dems self-destruct the better. We need a new political party
in this country, one more populist and grass roots.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RonSonic wrote:
> >
> > Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to

shun
> > the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or

realign
> > and sanity will again prevail.
> >
> > Ron

>
> I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
> administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
> again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
> forever.


I think Muslims started it back in 1979 by taking over our embassy in Iran
which is considered an act of war

> Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
> Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
> trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
> over their countries.


Umm 99% of the Muslims in that area ARE black

> Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
> ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
> Reality bites. Defending Bush just makes you look bad.
> Sorry.
> Bill Baka


I have a feeling if Bush did send troops you wouldn't be doing any cheering
eihter
 
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>>
>> Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>> the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>> and sanity will again prevail.
>>
>> Ron

>
>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.


Let me get this straight.

You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.

There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan

You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.

Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.

Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.

I'm sorry this is hard to follow.

Ron
 
RonSonic wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> RonSonic wrote:
>>>
>>> Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal
>>> America to shun the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party
>>> will either disappear or realign and sanity will again prevail.
>>>
>>> Ron

>>
>> I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>> administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>> again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>> forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just
>> Muslims/Islams, Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering
>> people, actually trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out
>> the blacks and taking over their countries. Leaders are begging for
>> help and Bush is totally ignoring them. Something is totally whacked
>> in Washington.

>
> Let me get this straight.
>
> You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.
>
> There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan
>
> You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.
>
> Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.
>
> Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.
>
> I'm sorry this is hard to follow.
>
> Ron


First of all, Ron, shouldn't you be in one of those New Government-Mandated
Bible Studies, instead of engaging in Open Dialogue on your Personal
Computer?

I'd stick around for an answer, but I have to participate in a New
Government-Sponsored Intervention on a Misguided Homosexual Couple who live
in my town. ("We'll set 'em straight!")

Gotta go. I'm dropping off doughnuts at the Local Federal Wiretapping
Office so those White Guys In White Shirts don't go hungry Protecting Us
From Us.

Oppressed Bill
 
RonSonic wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>RonSonic wrote:
>>
>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>
>>>Ron

>>
>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.

>
>
> Let me get this straight.
>
> You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.


Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.
>
> There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan


Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
Somalia.
>
> You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.


He claims to want to help human rights.
>
> Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.


Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
more **** hitting the fan.
>
> Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.


Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
nation has nothing to offer.
>
> I'm sorry this is hard to follow.


For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.
Bill
>
> Ron
 
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>
>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>
>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.

>>
>>
>> Let me get this straight.
>>
>> You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.

>
>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.


The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.

>> There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan

>
>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
>Somalia.
>>
>> You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.

>
>He claims to want to help human rights.


So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do that.

>> Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.

>
>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
>more **** hitting the fan.


I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?

>> Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.

>
>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
>nation has nothing to offer.


They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.

>> I'm sorry this is hard to follow.

>
>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.


Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.

Ron
 
RonSonic wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>RonSonic wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
>>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
>>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me get this straight.
>>>
>>>You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.

>>
>>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
>>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.

>
>
> The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.
>
>
>>>There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan

>>
>>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
>>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
>>Somalia.
>>
>>>You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.

>>
>>He claims to want to help human rights.

>
>
> So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do that.
>
>
>>>Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.

>>
>>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
>>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
>>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
>>more **** hitting the fan.

>
>
> I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?
>
>
>>>Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.

>>
>>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
>>nation has nothing to offer.

>
>
> They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
> depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.
>
>
>>>I'm sorry this is hard to follow.

>>
>>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.

>
>
> Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.
>
> Ron


Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death
painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?
Bill
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> RonSonic wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>RonSonic wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>RonSonic wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America

to shun
> >>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear

or realign
> >>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
> >>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
> >>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
> >>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just

Muslims/Islams,
> >>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
> >>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and

taking
> >>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
> >>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Let me get this straight.
> >>>
> >>>You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.
> >>
> >>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
> >>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.

> >
> >
> > The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.
> >
> >
> >>>There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan
> >>
> >>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
> >>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
> >>Somalia.
> >>
> >>>You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.
> >>
> >>He claims to want to help human rights.

> >
> >
> > So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do

that.
> >
> >
> >>>Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.
> >>
> >>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
> >>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
> >>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
> >>more **** hitting the fan.

> >
> >
> > I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?
> >
> >
> >>>Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.
> >>
> >>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
> >>nation has nothing to offer.

> >
> >
> > They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
> > depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.
> >
> >
> >>>I'm sorry this is hard to follow.
> >>
> >>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.

> >
> >
> > Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.
> >
> > Ron

>
> Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
> Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death
> painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?
> Bill


So you started a political thread? That was smart
 
Bill Baka [email protected] wrote in news:pBnSf.44120$2O6.5013
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:

> RonSonic wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America

to shun
>>>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear

or realign
>>>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just

Muslims/Islams,
>>>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and

taking
>>>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Let me get this straight.
>>>>
>>>>You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.
>>>
>>>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
>>>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.

>>
>>
>> The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.
>>
>>
>>>>There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan
>>>
>>>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
>>>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
>>>Somalia.
>>>
>>>>You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.
>>>
>>>He claims to want to help human rights.

>>
>>
>> So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do

that.
>>
>>
>>>>Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.
>>>
>>>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
>>>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
>>>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
>>>more **** hitting the fan.

>>
>>
>> I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?
>>
>>
>>>>Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.
>>>
>>>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
>>>nation has nothing to offer.

>>
>>
>> They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
>> depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.
>>
>>
>>>>I'm sorry this is hard to follow.
>>>
>>>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.

>>
>>
>> Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.
>>
>> Ron

>
> Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
> Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death
> painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?


Yes, but none of the jokes are about the
Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi Wa Sallam)
or Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala).
 
RonSonic wrote:

> My opposition to abortion is considered conservative for some reason. I would
> think that consigning such crude and barbaric practice to the footnotes of
> history was a progressive sort of position to take, but apparently I'm mistaken.


barbaric? it's a simple vacuum process that's quite unbarbaric. There's
a difference between a zygote an embryo and a born child, dontcha
know.

Even the Catholic church was fine with it untill recently as long as
the termination was before the "quickening".

Women have terminated pregnancies for mellinia, and the body itself
will do so, if it's not feeling healthy, so having a simple vacuum
procedure very early in the pregnancy is just fine by me.

What's barbaric is bringing an unwanted child into this cruel world to
suffer.

If you're religious and believe that the soul enters the embryo at the
moment of conception--I respect that, don't have an abortion, just
don't force others to comply with your personal faith.
 
Mark Leuck wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
>
>>RonSonic wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America

>
> to shun
>
>>>>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear

>
> or realign
>
>>>>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>>>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>>>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>>>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just

>
> Muslims/Islams,
>
>>>>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>>>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and

>
> taking
>
>>>>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>>>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Let me get this straight.
>>>>>
>>>>>You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.
>>>>
>>>>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
>>>>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.
>>>
>>>
>>>The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan
>>>>
>>>>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
>>>>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
>>>>Somalia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.
>>>>
>>>>He claims to want to help human rights.
>>>
>>>
>>>So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do

>
> that.
>
>>>
>>>>>Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.
>>>>
>>>>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
>>>>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
>>>>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
>>>>more **** hitting the fan.
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
>>>>nation has nothing to offer.
>>>
>>>
>>>They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
>>>depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I'm sorry this is hard to follow.
>>>>
>>>>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.
>>>
>>>Ron

>>
>>Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
>>Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death
>>painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?
>>Bill

>
>
> So you started a political thread? That was smart
>
>

Also not intentional at all.
Bill
 
landotter wrote:
> RonSonic wrote:
>
>
>>My opposition to abortion is considered conservative for some reason. I would
>>think that consigning such crude and barbaric practice to the footnotes of
>>history was a progressive sort of position to take, but apparently I'm mistaken.

>
>
> barbaric? it's a simple vacuum process that's quite unbarbaric. There's
> a difference between a zygote an embryo and a born child, dontcha
> know.
>
> Even the Catholic church was fine with it untill recently as long as
> the termination was before the "quickening".


The church should quit trying to run the world, but the truth is the
Pope probably has more real power over more people than Bush.
>
> Women have terminated pregnancies for mellinia, and the body itself
> will do so, if it's not feeling healthy, so having a simple vacuum
> procedure very early in the pregnancy is just fine by me.
>
> What's barbaric is bringing an unwanted child into this cruel world to
> suffer.


Double "Amen.". Especially in some of the worst countries. Why have any
child if you know it is likely to die of starvation or territorial
gunfights and stray bullets? I am practical, that's all. A child never
conceived will never suffer.
>
> If you're religious and believe that the soul enters the embryo at the
> moment of conception--I respect that, don't have an abortion, just
> don't force others to comply with your personal faith.
>

Amen, again.
Bill
 
Little Meow wrote:
> Bill Baka [email protected] wrote in news:pBnSf.44120$2O6.5013
>>
>>Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
>>Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death
>>painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?

>
>
> Yes, but none of the jokes are about the
> Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi Wa Sallam)
> or Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala).


Yeah, they are touchy on that. Maybe we could arrange for God in our
language to translate to Allah in theirs and make points.
Bill
 
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:42:23 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:11 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:41:29 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>RonSonic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Soon enough there will be a reaction among mainstream liberal America to shun
>>>>>>the extremists and moonbats, the Democrat party will either disappear or realign
>>>>>>and sanity will again prevail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>I was going to stay out of this one but you consider the Bush
>>>>>administration SANE? An administration controlled by so called 'Born
>>>>>again' Christian fanatics will have us in a holy war with the Muslims
>>>>>forever. Are we at war with Iraq and terrorists or just Muslims/Islams,
>>>>>Sunnies/Shiites, or who. The Muslims are murdering people, actually
>>>>>trying to commit genocide in Africa by wiping out the blacks and taking
>>>>>over their countries. Leaders are begging for help and Bush is totally
>>>>>ignoring them. Something is totally whacked in Washington.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Let me get this straight.
>>>>
>>>>You are afraid of a holy war with Islam.
>>>
>>>Not hardly, if we can't nuke em we can nerve gas all of them since the
>>>Geneva convention is way out of date and the UN holds no real power.

>>
>>
>> The latter part is true. It has no moral authority either.
>>
>>
>>>>There is an Islamic genocide in Sudan
>>>
>>>Muslim genocide of blacks if you would pay attention to the news. Makes
>>>what happened in Rwanda look trivial. I won't even say anything about
>>>Somalia.
>>>
>>>>You criticize the President for not diving into that fray.
>>>
>>>He claims to want to help human rights.

>>
>>
>> So we should go to war? But you keep complaining that we shouldn't do that.
>>
>>
>>>>Yet you accuse him of wanting a holy war.
>>>
>>>Blessed be the oil, and even better if a Bush supported pseudo-democracy
>>>is in control. We could just annex the oil fields as a United States
>>>territory as payback for all the trouble, but again that would lead to
>>>more **** hitting the fan.

>>
>>
>> I thought you said we could just nuke and gas 'em?
>>
>>
>>>>Yet he's wrong for not accepting this opportunity to engage.
>>>
>>>Yes, people are being slaughtered and he could care less because the
>>>nation has nothing to offer.

>>
>>
>> They've got oil! That's usually given as one of the reasons for the
>> depopulation. But you said we invade for oil.
>>
>>
>>>>I'm sorry this is hard to follow.
>>>
>>>For you maybe. I have given up on your ability to reason.

>>
>>
>> Reason and following your train of thought are very different things.
>>
>> Ron

>
>Back at you. I just want this thread to die.
>Besides, I did say Nitrous Oxide so they could laugh themselves to death


That was in a later post.
>painlessly. Have you "EVER" seen a Muslim actually laugh?


Yes. In Cairo.

Ron