Sinkewitz confesses - "Sammy the Bull" Gravano. Will he turn states...?

[Frigo's Luggage]

He reportedly testified about systematic doping at QS.

I can't wait for LeFevre to take a fall. Its been a long time coming.

 

[Bro Deal]

Disco is still "the dirtiest team in cycling."

Armstrong's performance is proof of that. Any doping program that could turn an average pro like Armstrong into a Tour winner is a heavy program.

 

[wolfix]

Armstrong's performance is proof of that. Any doping program that could turn an average pro like Armstrong into a Tour winner is a heavy program.

Average pros do not win the World Championships at the age he won it. Here is the list of the World since LA won it,, ......It is a list of many names with no average pro on it....... Since that year there have been thousands of UCI cycling pro's who never had their name on that list........

Just a reminder........ the man who wins the World's get the #1 coveted jersey to wear for a year to remind everyone he is not average.........

2007 Paolo Bettini, ITA
2006 Paolo Bettini, ITA

2005 Tom Boonen, BEL Alejandro Valverde, ESP Anthony Geslin, FRA Marcus Ljungqvist, SWE Murilo Fischer, BRA Madrid, Spain

2004 Oscar Freire, ESP Erik Zabel, GER Luca Paolini, ITA Stuart O'Grady, AUS Allan Davis, AUS Verona, Italy

2003 Igor Astarloa, ESP Alejandro Valverde, ESP Peter Van Petegem, BEL Paolo Bettini, ITA, Michael Boogerd, HOL Hamilton, Canada

2002 Mario Cipollini, ITA Robbie McKewen, AUS Erik Zabel, GER Andrej Hauptman, SLO Zoran Klemencic, SLO Zolder, Belgium

2001 Oscar Freire, ESP Paolo Bettini, ITA Andrej Hauptman, SLO Erik Zabel, GER Erik Dekker, HOL Lisbon, Portugal

2000 Romans Vainsteins, LAT Zbigniew Spruch, POL Oscar Freire, ESP Michele Bartoli, ITA Tobias Steinhauser, GER Plouay, France

1999 Oscar Freire, ESP Marcus Zberg, SWI Jean-Cyril Robin, FRA Francesco Casagrande, ITA Chann McRae, USA Verona, Italy

1998 Oscar Camenzind, SWI Peter Van Petegem, BEL Michele Bartoli, ITA Lance Armstrong, USA Nicki Aebersold, SWI Valkenburg, Holland

1997 Laurent Brochard, FRA Bo Hamburger, DEN Leon Van Bon, HOL Udo Bolts, GER Melchor Mauri Prat, ESP San Sebastian, Spain

1996 Johan Museeuw, BEL Mauro Gianetti, SWI Michele Bartoli, ITA Axel Merckx, BEL Richard Virenque, FRA Lugano, Switzerland

1995 Abraham Olano, ESP Miguel Indurain, ESP Marco Pantani, ITA Mauro Gianetti, SWI Pascal Richard, SWI Duitama, Colombia

1994 Luc Leblanc, FRA Claudio Chiappucci, ITA Richard Virenque, FRA Massimo Ghirotto, ITA Dimitri Konyshev, RUS Agrigento, Italy

1993 Lance Armstrong, USA Miguel Indurain, ESP Olaf Ludwig, GER Johan Museeuw, BEL Maurizio Fondriest, ITA Oslo, Norway

1992 Gianni Bugno, ITA Laurent Jalabert, FRA Dimitri Konyshev, RUS Tony Rominger, SWI Steven Rooks, HOL Stuttgart, Germany

1991 Gianni Bugno, ITA Steven Rooks, HOL Miguel Indurain, ESP Alvaro Mejia, COL Kai Hundertmark, GER Benidorm, Spain

 

[Andrija]

Please, someone explain me comparison of adjective "dirty"? If some one's dirty he's already dirty... Can't be dirtier or dirtiest...

Like a teenage talk with a girl: "Please blow me a bit... Just a bit!"

 

[thecyclist]

But we know that Lefevere's QS are clean and that even with the knowledge that is becoming available about T-M, Disco is still "the dirtiest team in cycling."

More information does not equal more dity. It sounds like it was much worse on Kelme and ONCE, but of course you love to call out T-Mobile in every post in defense of Lance and his team.

 

[Bro Deal]

Average pros do not win the World Championships at the age he won it. Here is the list of the World since LA won it,,

And how many of those won the Tour??? Zero.

How many went from being unable to climb to besting a doped up Pantani? Without Dr. Ferrari Armstrong would have never better than a decent one day rider.

 

[slovakguy]

From EuroSport:

"I had been using a product called Testogel, which is supplied by the company Jenapharm, to balance testosterone deficits. The gel is applied on the skin and absorbed into the body. It helps the body to recover after hard training."

"Without thinking, in a moment of huge stupidity, I applied some to my upper arm in our training camp in France in the evening before a dope test. I did this instinctively and without thinking of the possible results."

Is he saying that treating "testosterone deficits" is acceptable and common among cyclist.

I am puzzled at his comment (in bold). He did it instinctively?

i'm thinking that it is either a poor choice of words on sink's part or an odd translation. the sense i have, based on his description of his actions, makes me believe "out of habit" would make better sense of his statement.

 

[Frigo's Luggage]

Impressive list except for that Vainstains aberration. What the hell happened to him?

Average pros do not win the World Championships at the age he won it. Here is the list of the World since LA won it,, ......It is a list of many names with no average pro on it....... Since that year there have been thousands of UCI cycling pro's who never had their name on that list........

Just a reminder........ the man who wins the World's get the #1 coveted jersey to wear for a year to remind everyone he is not average.........

2007 Paolo Bettini, ITA
2006 Paolo Bettini, ITA

2005 Tom Boonen, BEL Alejandro Valverde, ESP Anthony Geslin, FRA Marcus Ljungqvist, SWE Murilo Fischer, BRA Madrid, Spain

2004 Oscar Freire, ESP Erik Zabel, GER Luca Paolini, ITA Stuart O'Grady, AUS Allan Davis, AUS Verona, Italy

2003 Igor Astarloa, ESP Alejandro Valverde, ESP Peter Van Petegem, BEL Paolo Bettini, ITA, Michael Boogerd, HOL Hamilton, Canada

2002 Mario Cipollini, ITA Robbie McKewen, AUS Erik Zabel, GER Andrej Hauptman, SLO Zoran Klemencic, SLO Zolder, Belgium

2001 Oscar Freire, ESP Paolo Bettini, ITA Andrej Hauptman, SLO Erik Zabel, GER Erik Dekker, HOL Lisbon, Portugal

2000 Romans Vainsteins, LAT Zbigniew Spruch, POL Oscar Freire, ESP Michele Bartoli, ITA Tobias Steinhauser, GER Plouay, France

1999 Oscar Freire, ESP Marcus Zberg, SWI Jean-Cyril Robin, FRA Francesco Casagrande, ITA Chann McRae, USA Verona, Italy

1998 Oscar Camenzind, SWI Peter Van Petegem, BEL Michele Bartoli, ITA Lance Armstrong, USA Nicki Aebersold, SWI Valkenburg, Holland

1997 Laurent Brochard, FRA Bo Hamburger, DEN Leon Van Bon, HOL Udo Bolts, GER Melchor Mauri Prat, ESP San Sebastian, Spain

1996 Johan Museeuw, BEL Mauro Gianetti, SWI Michele Bartoli, ITA Axel Merckx, BEL Richard Virenque, FRA Lugano, Switzerland

1995 Abraham Olano, ESP Miguel Indurain, ESP Marco Pantani, ITA Mauro Gianetti, SWI Pascal Richard, SWI Duitama, Colombia

1994 Luc Leblanc, FRA Claudio Chiappucci, ITA Richard Virenque, FRA Massimo Ghirotto, ITA Dimitri Konyshev, RUS Agrigento, Italy

1993 Lance Armstrong, USA Miguel Indurain, ESP Olaf Ludwig, GER Johan Museeuw, BEL Maurizio Fondriest, ITA Oslo, Norway

1992 Gianni Bugno, ITA Laurent Jalabert, FRA Dimitri Konyshev, RUS Tony Rominger, SWI Steven Rooks, HOL Stuttgart, Germany

1991 Gianni Bugno, ITA Steven Rooks, HOL Miguel Indurain, ESP Alvaro Mejia, COL Kai Hundertmark, GER Benidorm, Spain

 

[cyclingheroes]

He reportedly testified about systematic doping at QS.

I can't wait for LeFevre to take a fall. Its been a long time coming.

His 27 million euros law suit against Het Laatste Nieuws could become a disaster.

TM: Interesting is also that Sinkewitz accused the very same doctors who wrote TM's 2007 anti-doping plan...(Doc Heinrich and Doc Schmidt).

 

[jhuskey]

His 27 million euros law suit against Het Laatste Nieuws could become a disaster.

TM: Interesting is also that Sinkewitz accused the very same doctors who wrote TM's 2007 anti-doping plan...(Doc Heinrich and Doc Schmidt).

You don't think T-Mobile will be seen as manipulating and sinister after all this?
I hope not! I hate being right so much.

 

[Wayne666]

Impressive list except for that Vainstains aberration. What the hell happened to him?

I remember an interview where he said he thought he could win the Tour one-day just like Armstrong. I guess it didn't quite workout?

Didn't he have some doping problems of some sort, disappeared for bit then had a half-hearted comeback where it got some OK results but then fell off the face of the earth? At one point he looked like the next big classics rider.

Also Astorloa is on his way to doing a "Vainsteins".

Brochard and Camenzind while respectable pros hardly had overly impressive careers.

 

[Leafer]

But we know that Lefevere's QS are clean and that even with the knowledge that is becoming available about T-M, Disco is still "the dirtiest team in cycling."

We know T-Mob had a doping program. So did Saiz. Apparently Lefevre, too. Most likely CSC had something going as well, probably most teams did. Thing to keep in mind, though, is that Bruyneel's boys routinely kicked all of their butts.

 

[thunder]

I remember an interview where he said he thought he could win the Tour one-day just like Armstrong. I guess it didn't quite workout?

Didn't he have some doping problems of some sort, disappeared for bit then had a half-hearted comeback where it got some OK results but then fell off the face of the earth? At one point he looked like the next big classics rider.

Also Astorloa is on his way to doing a "Vainsteins".

Brochard and Camenzind while respectable pros hardly had overly impressive careers.

married the daughter of Vini Coldirola or Cantino Tollo. All over. Comfy existence on corporate winery, on dad-in-laws dime. Just impress a few clients with the world champs jersey. Take em for a group ride even though you have blown out to 110 kgs. Knock up the daughter w/ rugrats so you are certain of big inheritance/divorce payout. Simple.

Ukraine or Latvian or Lithuanian rags to riches story. American dream in cyrillic.

 

[cyclingheroes]

You don't think T-Mobile will be seen as manipulating and sinister after all this?
I hope not! I hate being right so much.

Aldag offered Sinkewitz a job at TM after his ban is over, Sinkewitz said: no doping at TM in 2007..

But the damage is done, TM will pay heavily for their anti-doping spin after yesterdays hearing.

 

[thunder]

Aldag offered Sinkewitz a job at TM after his ban is over, Sinkewitz said: no doping at TM in 2007..

But the damage is done, TM will pay heavily for their anti-doping spin after yesterdays hearing.

did Lefevre offer him a job too?

Sinkewitz, is in the best position now, he has offers out his ****

T-Mobile,
Mapei mtb team
Quickstep,
German youth team

that is the problem of the Dutch Rabobank rider, who has taken Den Bankers to court to get another contract .'

He should have tested positive, then they would have offered him one in 2 years

 

[cyclingheroes]

Patrick will probebly say he will sue Sinkewitz and after that we will have to wait about 100 years and than Patrcick says: Sinkewho?

did Lefevre offer him a job too?

Sinkewitz, is in the best position now, he has offers out his ****

T-Mobile,
Mapei mtb team
Quickstep,
German youth team

that is the problem of the Dutch Rabobank rider, who has taken Den Bankers to court to get another contract .'

He should have tested positive, then they would have offered him one in 2 years

 

[doctorSpoc]

Not true.

never saw the Rogers retraction/appology but he definitely admitted to taking EPO in 2003...

 

[doctorSpoc]

Please, someone explain me comparison of adjective "dirty"? If some one's dirty he's already dirty... Can't be dirtier or dirtiest...

Like a teenage talk with a girl: "Please blow me a bit... Just a bit!"

i'm with you... i don't understant this either... it's like saying... i'm just a little bit pregnant??? or didn't cheat, she only gave me head... or i'm still a virgin, he only used the tip.. stupid!! huh???

 

[helmutRoole2]

never saw the Rogers retraction/appology but he definitely admitted to taking EPO in 2003...

True. However, he never tested positive.

Look, I'm not the president of the Matt DeCanio fan club, but he did admit to doping while never testing positive. I think that lends credence to his statement that he was clean at Beauce.

DeCanio was a rare talent, but he was also way off kilter. His anti-doping antics have consumed him. In fact, they define him. He rides regularly in Miami and normally will make winning moves with professional riders, but he's a shell of his former self. He's covered with tattoos -- most prominent is an upside-down 13 that is the logo of his web site -- and seldom wears a helmet on massive, competitive group rides. Often he rides with only cycling shorts and a wife beater.

It's sad what his life has become. He is consumed by anti-doping. It's not unlike his days as an athlete. Like most endurance athletes, he'd toil in obscurity, training, doing small races before finding a big stage and performing. Now he waits for the media to call for a comment about the latest drug bust or sends out anti-doping e-mails, looking for those few moments when he's in the spotlight again.

One day on a ride I said to him, "Would you mind some unsolicited advice?" He shrugged his shoulders. "Drop the anti-doping web site," I said. "Let it go. You've done enough. Go out and race your bicycle before it's too late."

I don't think he took those words to heart. Here in the states there are several teams who would sign him if he'd only discontinue his web site and promise to refrain from his anti-doping antics, but I don't think he can take that step. With the site, he's got a stage. With cycling... I don't know if he can get back to anywhere close to what he was before.

 

[cyclingheroes]

Interesting: In 2004 almost all TM riders were ill and had to abandon the Vuelta, officially because of food poison (a fish..). Vinokourov was ill as well but was able to continue the race. The only riders who were not ill were Zabel and Evans and ... all riders of a second team that stayed in the same hotel. The hotel manager had the fish analyzed but the lab did not find anything....

I gues the boys from Freiburg made a mistake...

Interesting that Zabel and Evans were the only ones of TM who were not ill.