Telekom Mobile "shitty management/cyclist hierarchy system"

[cyclingheroes]

Barn,

Agreed the Pevenage/Goodefroot civil war was madness.
I suppose the fact that they were rivals as cyclists didn't help but the fallout
after Ullrich was suspended by Telekom never really rectified itself.
Jan places great faith in Pevenage - I suppose he's a father figure to Jan.

In the Bianchi season (2003) Pevenage was responsible for team tactics and he seemed to get a weak team to work for Jan (the behind the scenes "life with Bianchi" is great - it shows Pevenage really working closely with Jan Ullrich).
The evening meal after Jan beating LA in the ITT showed Pevenage ordering a toast to JU because he (JU) put in a great effort that day.

As regards Saiz being unstable - I couldn't possibly comment.
Except to say Manola Siaz does have a volcanic temperment

I don't know if he (Pevenage) is a father figure for Jan but it wouldn't suprise me if he is. Jan grew up in East Germany and during the DDR years he was used to be taking care of by the cycling institutions in the former communist part of Germany (DDR).

 

[barnstorm]

As regards Saiz being unstable - I couldn't possibly comment.
Except to say Manola Siaz does have a volcanic temperment[/QUOTE]
volcanic temperment is probably a better way to put it based on what I actually know but where there's smoke, there's fire. Saiz does lose it periodically.

 

[Doctor.House]

Looks like Mussette was right and Limrickman wrong, a victim of his T-Mobile bais.

T-Mobile cheated and doped it way to all these fraudulent victories. I would add the words 'unethical and dishonest' to her words, 'shitty management'.

Some people have a knack at hitting the core of the matter.

Fans support cheating in politics, business and sport. Then deny it.

The end justifies the means. Only winning (results) matters.

2008 will be another repeat of 1998, 2006, 2007. But Hein Verbruggen & **** Pound & their IOC TV Network partners will present the Olympic Games as clean and neat.

Same ol same ol.

Our resident all round cycling fan - Musette - made the following statement
with respect to Telekom Mobile : quote "(Mobile) has shitty management/cyclist hierarchy system".

Having read her latest profound insight, I took a look at Mobiles record in the
level one category of tours, stage races and one days races.

Judge for yourselves if Telekom Mobiles record is as bad as our resident
analyst claims :


Tour De France :

1996 : 1st/2nd on GC : Winner Points competition : Winner best young rider
5 stage wins.

1997 : 1st on GC, one rider in top 10 GC, Winner Points competition : Winner best young rider, Winner Team Competition.

1998 : 2nd on GC, two riders in top 10 GC, Winner Points competition :
Winner best young rider, 4 stage wins.

1999 : 1 stage win, Winner Points competition :

2000 : 2 stage wins, Winner Points competition, two riders in top 10 GC.

2001 : 4 stage wins, 2nd on GC, Winner Points competition.

2002 : 1 stage win

2003 : 1 stage win, one rider in top 10 GC.

2004 : 2&3rd on GC, Winner Team Competition.

2005 : 2 riders in Top 10 GC, 3 stage wins, Winner Team Competition.

Milan-San Remo :

Won 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001.

Tour of Flanders :

Won 2004

Ghent Wevelgem :

Won 2003

Amstel Gold :

Won 1997, 2000 and 2003.

Championship of Zurich :

Won 2003.

Paris-Tours :

Won 2003 and 2005.

Hew Classics :

Won 1997 and 2001.

Paris-Nice :

Won 2000, 2002 and 2003.

Pais Vasco :

Won 2000.

Dauphine Libere:

Won 1997 and 1999.

Tour of Switzerland :

Won 2003 and 2004

Vuelta Espana :

Won 1999

Tour of Germany :

Won 1999 and 2001.

UCI World Rankings :

1999 4th : 2000 2nd : 2001 2nd : 2002 11th : 2003 3rd : 2004 1st : 2005 6th

 

[Doctor.House]

With a Swastica on it maybe.

Is this a racist post?

Hmmmm?

 

[Serafino]

Thanks Capt : TM have a great record.

... of doping ... and employing its in-house EPO injecting doctors to "administer" its oxymoronic anti-doping policy.

 

[nns1400]

But getting back to TM : their record of success puts them up in the ONCE league of the early 1990's, and in the Renault category of the 1980's.
Teams would give their "eye teeth" for even half of Mobiles palmares.

Which is why Big George is going there. Doesn't Musette wonder why two Disco riders would go to TM? Should be interesting, especially if Klodi goes back.

 

[Serafino]

Which is why Big George is going there. Doesn't Musette wonder why two Disco riders would go to TM? Should be interesting, especially if Klodi goes back.

The question should really be ... "If Disco was so dirty, why is T-Mobile picking up its riders (3 including Mike Barry) ...."

Disco haters and T-Mobile lovers (apologists), you can't have it both ways.

 

[nns1400]

The question should really be ... "If Disco was so dirty, why is T-Mobile picking up its riders (3 including Mike Barry) ...."

Disco haters and T-Mobile lovers (apologists), you can't have it both ways.

Everyone wants their "secret."

 

[Flyer]

This would have been deleted if I had posted this.

dsddd

 

[Flyer]

TM has a pretty good record in it's tenure.


Musette said "Shitty"? At'a girl !

In my opinion, this would be just a 'run of the mill' thread without the cast it has. You all make this thread better..... Just leave your guns and knives at the door before you enter.

Lw

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