Widdershins Born on Schedule, Minor Glitches

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the constellation
> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
> >> rather
> >> than a mythological one ;-)
> >>

> >
> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
> > astronomical creation ;-)

>
> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of Latin
> and not Greek origin.
>


Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the constellation
> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
> >> rather
> >> than a mythological one ;-)
> >>

> >
> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
> > astronomical creation ;-)

>
> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of Latin
> and not Greek origin.
>


Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
> Two things were not as planned. I had paid a supplement for short
> cranks, more comfortable for someone of my 1.7 meters, and strangely not
> fitted as standard. (It would seem the average German Dark Sider is very
> tall, a pleasant thing to contemplate.)


I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk, and have
never had a particular issue with "standard" length cranks. While
this is not saying that they're necessarily the best thing, it's
not really "strange" that they've opted for the standard when so
many folk use it without problems.

> Also the parking brake on the
> rear wheel was supposed to be actionable with a push button. Instead it
> is a tacky velcro-strap arrangement that they told us when we ordered
> was no longer used. We will sort this out with them over the next few
> weeks.


If you've gone for the Maggie Big one lever actuated pair then that
would leave you space on the other bar for a decent parking brake
lever. Magura do a very nice one which is supplied as standard on
the Burrows 8 Freight as the rear brake lever and parking brake,
working just like a normal brake lever but with an easily engaged
ratchet to keep it on if (and only if!) you want to. While not
particularly familiar with the layout of the Scorpion I can't think
of any immediate reasons why it wouldn't work, and since HPVel work
with Magura anyway it would seem even easier, and would give you a
bit of emergency brake power just in case you couldn't get at the
lever for the Bigs.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
>
> Two things were not as planned. I had paid a supplement for short
> cranks, more comfortable for someone of my 1.7 meters, and strangely not
> fitted as standard. (It would seem the average German Dark Sider is very
> tall, a pleasant thing to contemplate.)


I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk, and have
never had a particular issue with "standard" length cranks. While
this is not saying that they're necessarily the best thing, it's
not really "strange" that they've opted for the standard when so
many folk use it without problems.

> Also the parking brake on the
> rear wheel was supposed to be actionable with a push button. Instead it
> is a tacky velcro-strap arrangement that they told us when we ordered
> was no longer used. We will sort this out with them over the next few
> weeks.


If you've gone for the Maggie Big one lever actuated pair then that
would leave you space on the other bar for a decent parking brake
lever. Magura do a very nice one which is supplied as standard on
the Burrows 8 Freight as the rear brake lever and parking brake,
working just like a normal brake lever but with an easily engaged
ratchet to keep it on if (and only if!) you want to. While not
particularly familiar with the layout of the Scorpion I can't think
of any immediate reasons why it wouldn't work, and since HPVel work
with Magura anyway it would seem even easier, and would give you a
bit of emergency brake power just in case you couldn't get at the
lever for the Bigs.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,


UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)

IGMC

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,


UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)

IGMC

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
Tony Raven wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,

>
> UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)


No, but I do shuffle about carrying a bass trombone around...

B'boom Tss!
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
Tony Raven wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,

>
> UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)


No, but I do shuffle about carrying a bass trombone around...

B'boom Tss!
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the
>> >> constellation
>> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
>> >> rather
>> >> than a mythological one ;-)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
>> > astronomical creation ;-)

>>
>> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of
>> Latin
>> and not Greek origin.
>>

>
> Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
> link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
> Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
> to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
> the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
> in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.



Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
moment :)

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10775326.html


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net
 
"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the
>> >> constellation
>> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
>> >> rather
>> >> than a mythological one ;-)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
>> > astronomical creation ;-)

>>
>> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of
>> Latin
>> and not Greek origin.
>>

>
> Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
> link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
> Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
> to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
> the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
> in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.



Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
moment :)

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10775326.html


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
> >> >>
> >> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the
> >> >> constellation
> >> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
> >> >> rather
> >> >> than a mythological one ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
> >> > astronomical creation ;-)
> >>
> >> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of
> >> Latin
> >> and not Greek origin.
> >>

> >
> > Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
> > link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
> > Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
> > to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
> > the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
> > in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.

>
>
> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
> moment :)
>


They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
> >> >>
> >> >> I corrected myself. Arcturus is the brightest star in the
> >> >> constellation
> >> >> Bootes, the Herdsman. I was looking at them in an astronomical sense
> >> >> rather
> >> >> than a mythological one ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Even Bootes is derived from Greek mythology and not as an independent
> >> > astronomical creation ;-)
> >>
> >> Where does Spica fit into all this then? :-/ I thought the name was of
> >> Latin
> >> and not Greek origin.
> >>

> >
> > Well Virgo is in so many myths, including the Callisto myth which would
> > link it with Arcturus, that nobody knows which one it originated with.
> > Spica, as you say, comes from the Latin for an ear of wheat and refers
> > to myths in which Virgo is associated with Demeter, the Greek Goddess of
> > the Harvest and Fertility, who is often depicted holding a head of wheat
> > in one hand. In Virgo, Spica is identified as that head of wheat.

>
>
> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
> moment :)
>


They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell
 
"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
> right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
> in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.


It's not terribly comet-shaped, but interesting to see nonetheless. Could
see it in Cambridge, and rather better here in the Dales.

cheers,
clive
 
"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
> right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
> in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.


It's not terribly comet-shaped, but interesting to see nonetheless. Could
see it in Cambridge, and rather better here in the Dales.

cheers,
clive
 
Tony Raven wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
>> moment :)
>>

>
> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
> right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
> in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.


This one has been in the news for a week, although I have not looked due
to the levels of light pollution around here which has dramatically
increased in the last week.
Then if I go to the nearest park area I could get arrested for
disturbing perverts of something.

Martin.
 
Tony Raven wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at the
>> moment :)
>>

>
> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in the
> right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I would see
> in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.


This one has been in the news for a week, although I have not looked due
to the levels of light pollution around here which has dramatically
increased in the last week.
Then if I go to the nearest park area I could get arrested for
disturbing perverts of something.

Martin.
 
Peter Clinch wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,

>>
>> UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)

>
> No, but I do shuffle about carrying a bass trombone around...


Meh. I used to carry a euphonium AND a trombone, the case for which
accommodated both valve attachment and slide.

> B'boom Tss!


Bill "chops" S.
 
Peter Clinch wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>> I'm 1.73m, and have relatively short legs and long trunk,

>>
>> UR a baby elephant and ICMFP ;-)

>
> No, but I do shuffle about carrying a bass trombone around...


Meh. I used to carry a euphonium AND a trombone, the case for which
accommodated both valve attachment and slide.

> B'boom Tss!


Bill "chops" S.
 
Martin Dann wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at
>>> the moment :)
>>>

>>
>> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in
>> the right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I
>> would see in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.

>
> This one has been in the news for a week, although I have not looked due
> to the levels of light pollution around here which has dramatically
> increased in the last week.
> Then if I go to the nearest park area I could get arrested for
> disturbing perverts or something.


I have just been up to Clifton Downs, and it can be seen by the naked
eye despite all the light pollution from Bristol. Looks great through my
10x binoculars. I might also have seen a shooting star, but there is a
lot of noise in that area at the moment.

(Didn't see any preverts.)

Martin.
 
Martin Dann wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>> Thanks Tony - anyway there is a fine naked eye comet in Perseus at
>>> the moment :)
>>>

>>
>> They've kept that one quiet. All I need is a patch of clear sky in
>> the right place. I had expected Hale-Bopp to be the last comet I
>> would see in my life so a nice bonus if I see this one.

>
> This one has been in the news for a week, although I have not looked due
> to the levels of light pollution around here which has dramatically
> increased in the last week.
> Then if I go to the nearest park area I could get arrested for
> disturbing perverts or something.


I have just been up to Clifton Downs, and it can be seen by the naked
eye despite all the light pollution from Bristol. Looks great through my
10x binoculars. I might also have seen a shooting star, but there is a
lot of noise in that area at the moment.

(Didn't see any preverts.)

Martin.