Yeah, let's just forget about that pesky Wiens fellow.Bike N Ski said:(sans Wiens)
Armstrong didn't do any better than Landis. They both finished a couple of minutes behind Wiens. The difference is that FLandis was out of shape and overweight during the Spring because of his arbitration hearing and book promotion. Armstrong was in marathon shape during the same point in the year Landis was eating junk food and sitting in front of the arbs.
Armstrong just isn't the same without Dr. Ferrari's preparation. Either that or Wiens should go over to Europe and win a few TdFs.