Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones



On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:43:53 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>SO
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:eek:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 03:11:14 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>As Frank Krygowski keeps pointing out, bicycling is a remarkably safe
>>>activity for the general population.
>>>
>>>Carl,
>>>I was talking about Dave's Reckoning and comparing it to China which I
>>>still
>>>think is true. no laws or signs just common sense
>>
>> Dear Nash,
>>
>> To jog your memory, here's your entire post:
>>
>> "Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
>> injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
>> knowledge. Anyone?"
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel

Dear Nash,

A fairly predictable descent from arrogant ignorance to silly evasions
and self-contradictions and finally to the bottom of a childish
barrel.

Amusingly, much of the audience won't even know what your "SO" meant.

Come back when you learn how to work a four-function calculator. The
illiteracy and mis-spelling are acceptable, but you really can't
expect to post numeric nonsense on a technical group without having
your errors pointed out.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
 
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:04:01 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>>
>>
>>>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
>>>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
>>>knowledge. Anyone?
>>>
>>
>> a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
>> statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
>> pro-helmet zealots; and
>>
>> b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
>
>Google search 3rd entry
>In Beijing, China, bicycle traffic constitutes more than 50% of passenger
>transportation and more than 30% of traffic accident fatalities. Nearly 70%
>of the traffic accidents were related to bicycles. The rate of fatalities
>for bicyclists 60 and older is five times greater than the average. Farmers
>have the greatest number of bicycle incidents. The peak hour for bicycle
>accidents is usually 7:00 to 8:00 a.m., depending on the bicycle and
>motorized vehicle traffic flows. Monday is the peak day for bicycle
>accidents. It was also found that more bicycle accidents happened in July,
>which is Beijing's tourism season. Generally speaking, roads and streets
>with higher speed limits, such as arterials and rural highways, have higher
>rates of bicycle accident fatalities. Bicycle accidents can be attributed to
>many causes, including road and environmental conditions, traffic safety
>measures, operations of motorized vehicles, and bicyclists' habits and
>skills. The most pressing factor contributing to bicycle accidents is the
>inadequate and insufficient facilities provided for bicyclists. To reduce
>the annual toll of bicyclist injuries and fatalities, a number of
>countermeasures, such as improvement of road and environmental conditions,
>education in traffic laws, training in cycling, and use of helmet, are
>recommended.
>
>whole document here
>http://pubsindex.trb.org/document/view/default.asp?lbid=451894
>
>50% of population ride to work in Beijing
>that enough for you citers.
>
Dear Nash,

Er, no.

No number in your citation addresses your "100's of head injuries
everyday in any Chinese city" claim. Those are all percentages of some
unknown number of accidents.

But it's good to see that you've changed your mind about citations and
started looking at reality to see if it corresponds to what you claim.
It isn't so much whether you're right or wrong about a particular
matter--it's getting into the habit of looking into things.

I'd be pleased if you find evidence that I'm mistaken in thinking that
you're off by an order of magnitude or so and that hundreds of
bicyclists suffer head injuries every day in any Chinese city.

But a quick google doesn't suggest that's the case:

"We are fortunate to have an in-depth report for China where bicycle
related deaths kill 22 per 1,000,000 per year [18]."

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1379660

So in a Chinese city with a million people, there would be only 22
deaths per 365 x 100 = 36,500 head injuries. (Of course, those are 22
"bicycle-related" deaths and thus include a fair number of pedestrians
struck and killed by bicycles.)

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
 
Johnny Sunset wrote:
>
>
> The prevalence of the automatic transmission is one of the reasons why
> US society is in decline.

As we all know, it's also why the Roman Empire fell.

;-)

- Frank Krygowski
 
"Yarper" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist,
> due directly to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz,
> who ironically is listed as working for a personal-injury law firm.
>
> http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2006/11/30/woman_is_sentenced_fo
> r_bicyclists_death
>
> What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
> they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.
>
This particular stretch of road does have a full-width shoulder.
The area is dead flat with excellent visibility.
Which makes the driver's antics and crime all the more
questionable. Distracted driver laws are inadequate.
 
Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> Cell phones are intended to be used while driving. You can tell this by
> the fact that coverage in almost all US metropolitan areas is excellent
> on highways and spotty to poor more than 1/4 away from highways. In the
> Twin Cities metro are there are many, many coverage holes and my phone
> (Sprint) is frequently unusable on surface streets and in neighborhoods.

Very interesting - and infuriating - point. I hadn't thought of that.

> Not that talking on a cell phone and driving is a good idea. A dozen
> times a day or more I see people driving neglectfully while talking on
> cell phones- all of them probably thinking they are driving fine. NO
> ONE drives safely while talking on a cell phone, and hands free phones
> don't help much if at all. If you think you can drive safely while
> you're talking on your cell phone, you are delusional.

I agree.

Since this is a tech group: I'd love to see a portable device that
would deactivate or jam every cell phone within, say, 100 feet of my
bike.

Hmm. Maybe replace the caller's voice with "Watch out for the bike!
Watch out for the bike!" repeated over and over!

- Frank Krygowski
 
: >>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
: >>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
: >>knowledge. Anyone?
: >>
: >
: > a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
: > statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
: > pro-helmet zealots; and
: >
: > b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
:
: here is another from J. Hopkins U.
: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1380951
:
: I could go on.

We'll forgive you if you don't.
 
I did not say deaths. grow up

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:04:01 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
>>>>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
>>>>knowledge. Anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>> a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
>>> statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
>>> pro-helmet zealots; and
>>>
>>> b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
>>
>>Google search 3rd entry
>>In Beijing, China, bicycle traffic constitutes more than 50% of passenger
>>transportation and more than 30% of traffic accident fatalities. Nearly
>>70%
>>of the traffic accidents were related to bicycles. The rate of fatalities
>>for bicyclists 60 and older is five times greater than the average.
>>Farmers
>>have the greatest number of bicycle incidents. The peak hour for bicycle
>>accidents is usually 7:00 to 8:00 a.m., depending on the bicycle and
>>motorized vehicle traffic flows. Monday is the peak day for bicycle
>>accidents. It was also found that more bicycle accidents happened in July,
>>which is Beijing's tourism season. Generally speaking, roads and streets
>>with higher speed limits, such as arterials and rural highways, have
>>higher
>>rates of bicycle accident fatalities. Bicycle accidents can be attributed
>>to
>>many causes, including road and environmental conditions, traffic safety
>>measures, operations of motorized vehicles, and bicyclists' habits and
>>skills. The most pressing factor contributing to bicycle accidents is the
>>inadequate and insufficient facilities provided for bicyclists. To reduce
>>the annual toll of bicyclist injuries and fatalities, a number of
>>countermeasures, such as improvement of road and environmental conditions,
>>education in traffic laws, training in cycling, and use of helmet, are
>>recommended.
>>
>>whole document here
>>http://pubsindex.trb.org/document/view/default.asp?lbid=451894
>>
>>50% of population ride to work in Beijing
>>that enough for you citers.
>>
> Dear Nash,
>
> Er, no.
>
> No number in your citation addresses your "100's of head injuries
> everyday in any Chinese city" claim. Those are all percentages of some
> unknown number of accidents.
>
> But it's good to see that you've changed your mind about citations and
> started looking at reality to see if it corresponds to what you claim.
> It isn't so much whether you're right or wrong about a particular
> matter--it's getting into the habit of looking into things.
>
> I'd be pleased if you find evidence that I'm mistaken in thinking that
> you're off by an order of magnitude or so and that hundreds of
> bicyclists suffer head injuries every day in any Chinese city.
>
> But a quick google doesn't suggest that's the case:
>
> "We are fortunate to have an in-depth report for China where bicycle
> related deaths kill 22 per 1,000,000 per year [18]."
>
> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1379660
>
> So in a Chinese city with a million people, there would be only 22
> deaths per 365 x 100 = 36,500 head injuries. (Of course, those are 22
> "bicycle-related" deaths and thus include a fair number of pedestrians
> struck and killed by bicycles.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
 
Because you know I am right.
Again you expect me to dig up stuff I saw on TV maybe 10 years ago. I give
up. Roughly what I said is true.
Per city I only rationalized. 100/ day easy.
Plus I was only answering to Dave's Reckoning. The jist of what I was
saying or the idea, reaction, does not have to be footnoted.
I disagreed, you disagree with me, therefore you agree with Dave. Tell
us why you agree with dave's reckoning. We are waiting patiently for a well
thought out, footnoted, master's thesis on this.

"Robert Coe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>: >>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
> : >>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
> : >>knowledge. Anyone?
> : >>
> : >
> : > a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
> : > statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
> : > pro-helmet zealots; and
> : >
> : > b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
> :
> : here is another from J. Hopkins U.
> : http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1380951
> :
> : I could go on.
>
> We'll forgive you if you don't.
 
RLB wrote:
> "Yarper" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist,
> > due directly to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz,
> > who ironically is listed as working for a personal-injury law firm.
> >
> > http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2006/11/30/woman_is_sentenced_fo
> > r_bicyclists_death
> >
> > What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
> > they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.
> >
> This particular stretch of road does have a full-width shoulder.

Where exactly did the accident occur?

> The area is dead flat with excellent visibility.

Not exactly dead flat:
<http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=16&X=125&Y=1386&W=2&qs=windsor%7curbana%7cil%7c&Addr=E+Windsor+Rd%2c+Urbana%2c+IL+61802&ALon=-88.1688425&ALat=40.0838838>.

However, having driven all of Route 130 in the area several times, a
driver should be able to see a cyclist at least 5 and probably more
like 10 to 20 seconds before overtaking, which is plenty of time.

> Which makes the driver's antics and crime all the more
> questionable. Distracted driver laws are inadequate.

Based on Ms. Stark's behavior, she should never be allowed to operate a
motor vehicle again, since she has proven her irresponsibility.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
 
RLB wrote:
> "Yarper" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist,
> > due directly to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz,
> > who ironically is listed as working for a personal-injury law firm.
> >
> > http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2006/11/30/woman_is_sentenced_fo
> > r_bicyclists_death
> >
> > What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
> > they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.
> >
> This particular stretch of road does have a full-width shoulder.

Where exactly did the accident occur?

> The area is dead flat with excellent visibility.

Not exactly dead flat:
<http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=16&X=125&Y=1386&W=2&qs=windsor%7curbana%7cil%7c&Addr=E+Windsor+Rd%2c+Urbana%2c+IL+61802&ALon=-88.1688425&ALat=40.0838838>.

However, having driven all of Route 130 in the area several times, a
driver should be able to see a cyclist at least 5 and probably more
like 10 to 20 seconds before overtaking, which is plenty of time.

> Which makes the driver's antics and crime all the more
> questionable. Distracted driver laws are inadequate.

Based on Ms. Stark's behavior, she should never be allowed to operate a
motor vehicle again, since she has proven her irresponsibility.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
 
nash wrote:
> I did not say deaths. grow up
>

Get a brain.

#1, what does fatalities (from your cite) mean?

#2, you cited percentages, not numbers.

Greg

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:04:01 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
>>>>> injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
>>>>> knowledge. Anyone?
>>>>>
>>>> a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
>>>> statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
>>>> pro-helmet zealots; and
>>>>
>>>> b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
>>> Google search 3rd entry
>>> In Beijing, China, bicycle traffic constitutes more than 50% of passenger
>>> transportation and more than 30% of traffic accident fatalities. Nearly
>>> 70%
>>> of the traffic accidents were related to bicycles. The rate of fatalities
>>> for bicyclists 60 and older is five times greater than the average.
>>> Farmers
>>> have the greatest number of bicycle incidents. The peak hour for bicycle
>>> accidents is usually 7:00 to 8:00 a.m., depending on the bicycle and
>>> motorized vehicle traffic flows. Monday is the peak day for bicycle
>>> accidents. It was also found that more bicycle accidents happened in July,
>>> which is Beijing's tourism season. Generally speaking, roads and streets
>>> with higher speed limits, such as arterials and rural highways, have
>>> higher
>>> rates of bicycle accident fatalities. Bicycle accidents can be attributed
>>> to
>>> many causes, including road and environmental conditions, traffic safety
>>> measures, operations of motorized vehicles, and bicyclists' habits and
>>> skills. The most pressing factor contributing to bicycle accidents is the
>>> inadequate and insufficient facilities provided for bicyclists. To reduce
>>> the annual toll of bicyclist injuries and fatalities, a number of
>>> countermeasures, such as improvement of road and environmental conditions,
>>> education in traffic laws, training in cycling, and use of helmet, are
>>> recommended.
>>>
>>> whole document here
>>> http://pubsindex.trb.org/document/view/default.asp?lbid=451894
>>>
>>> 50% of population ride to work in Beijing
>>> that enough for you citers.
>>>
>> Dear Nash,
>>
>> Er, no.
>>
>> No number in your citation addresses your "100's of head injuries
>> everyday in any Chinese city" claim. Those are all percentages of some
>> unknown number of accidents.
>>
>> But it's good to see that you've changed your mind about citations and
>> started looking at reality to see if it corresponds to what you claim.
>> It isn't so much whether you're right or wrong about a particular
>> matter--it's getting into the habit of looking into things.
>>
>> I'd be pleased if you find evidence that I'm mistaken in thinking that
>> you're off by an order of magnitude or so and that hundreds of
>> bicyclists suffer head injuries every day in any Chinese city.
>>
>> But a quick google doesn't suggest that's the case:
>>
>> "We are fortunate to have an in-depth report for China where bicycle
>> related deaths kill 22 per 1,000,000 per year [18]."
>>
>> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1379660
>>
>> So in a Chinese city with a million people, there would be only 22
>> deaths per 365 x 100 = 36,500 head injuries. (Of course, those are 22
>> "bicycle-related" deaths and thus include a fair number of pedestrians
>> struck and killed by bicycles.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>


--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
 
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:54:29 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]> wrote:
: Because you know I am right.
: Again you expect me to dig up stuff I saw on TV maybe 10 years ago. I give
: up. Roughly what I said is true.
: Per city I only rationalized. 100/ day easy.
: Plus I was only answering to Dave's Reckoning. The jist of what I was
: saying or the idea, reaction, does not have to be footnoted.
: I disagreed, you disagree with me, therefore you agree with Dave.

I do? How did that happen? Just yesterday I posted the following:

-> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:55:40 -0500, "Dave Reckoning"
-> <[email protected]> wrote:
-> : The best idea I have seen is counter-intuitive, take down all of the
-> : traffic signs and street marking and make people rely on common sense!!!
-> : Street markings and bike lanes just give the cars the false sense that
-> : they can drive over anything that gets in their way.
-> :
-> If that's the best idea you've seen, you should find a better optometrist.

: Tell us why you agree with dave's reckoning. We are waiting patiently for
: a well thought out, footnoted, master's thesis on this.

I guess you're in for a long wait.

: "Robert Coe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]...
: >: >>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist head
: > : >>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as common
: > : >>knowledge. Anyone?
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : > a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
: > : > statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls and
: > : > pro-helmet zealots; and
: > : >
: > : > b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
: > :
: > : here is another from J. Hopkins U.
: > : http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1380951
: > :
: > : I could go on.
: >
: > We'll forgive you if you don't.
 
>>>Come back when you learn how to work a four-function calculator. The
illiteracy and mis-spelling are acceptable, but you really can't
expect to post numeric nonsense on a technical group without having
your errors pointed out.

You wrote the same rhetoric before.
I was writing to Bicycles.misc the list I did not notice. I do not want to
be in those groups it just happened. But now I will cut them out.

Plus I am in the highest brain sex category by a British Study that you can
be. I am meticulous about spelling and grammar and am smarter than most
male brains and most female brains combined. I work 4X better than you Carl
Fogel
Too bad, you are plonked. DOA
 
nash WHO? wrote:

LEARN TO ATRIBUTE WHEN QUOTING!

> >>>Come back when you learn how to work a four-function calculator. The
> illiteracy and mis-spelling are acceptable, but you really can't
> expect to post numeric nonsense on a technical group without having
> your errors pointed out.

STOP MESSING UP THE QUOTING HEIRARCHY MARKERS WHEN QUOTING!

> You wrote the same rhetoric before.
> I was writing to Bicycles.misc the list I did not notice. I do not want to
> be in those groups it just happened. But now I will cut them out.
>
> Plus I am in the highest brain sex category by a British Study that you can
> be.

What is a "brain sex category"?

> I am meticulous about spelling and grammar and am smarter than most
> male brains and most female brains combined. I work 4X better than you Carl
> Fogel
> Too bad, you are plonked. DOA

"nash" needs to work on his/her punctuation, logic, and Usenet
protocol.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
 
Robert I was trying to disagree with Dave, maybe the timing was mixed up.
I understand your comment and thought it was hilarious.
Cheers

"Robert Coe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:54:29 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> : Because you know I am right.
> : Again you expect me to dig up stuff I saw on TV maybe 10 years ago. I
> give
> : up. Roughly what I said is true.
> : Per city I only rationalized. 100/ day easy.
> : Plus I was only answering to Dave's Reckoning. The jist of what I was
> : saying or the idea, reaction, does not have to be footnoted.
> : I disagreed, you disagree with me, therefore you agree with Dave.
>
> I do? How did that happen? Just yesterday I posted the following:
>
> -> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:55:40 -0500, "Dave Reckoning"
> -> <[email protected]> wrote:
> -> : The best idea I have seen is counter-intuitive, take down all of the
> -> : traffic signs and street marking and make people rely on common
> sense!!!
> -> : Street markings and bike lanes just give the cars the false sense
> that
> -> : they can drive over anything that gets in their way.
> -> :
> -> If that's the best idea you've seen, you should find a better
> optometrist.
>
> : Tell us why you agree with dave's reckoning. We are waiting patiently
> for
> : a well thought out, footnoted, master's thesis on this.
>
> I guess you're in for a long wait.
>
> : "Robert Coe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]...
> : >: >>Sure Dave and that is why any Chinese city has 100's of cyclist
> head
> : > : >>injuries everyday of the year. Do not citation me I know it as
> common
> : > : >>knowledge. Anyone?
> : > : >>
> : > : >
> : > : > a) you must be new here - claiming such a patently ridiculous
> : > : > statistic to be true without any proof is only employed by trolls
> and
> : > : > pro-helmet zealots; and
> : > : >
> : > : > b) "common knowledge" isn't either.
> : > :
> : > : here is another from J. Hopkins U.
> : > : http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1380951
> : > :
> : > : I could go on.
> : >
> : > We'll forgive you if you don't.
 
On 2 Dec 2006 11:26:09 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
:
: Tim McNamara wrote:
: >
: > Cell phones are intended to be used while driving. You can tell this by
: > the fact that coverage in almost all US metropolitan areas is excellent
: > on highways and spotty to poor more than 1/4 away from highways. In the
: > Twin Cities metro are there are many, many coverage holes and my phone
: > (Sprint) is frequently unusable on surface streets and in neighborhoods.
:
: Very interesting - and infuriating - point. I hadn't thought of that.
:
: > Not that talking on a cell phone and driving is a good idea. A dozen
: > times a day or more I see people driving neglectfully while talking on
: > cell phones- all of them probably thinking they are driving fine. NO
: > ONE drives safely while talking on a cell phone, and hands free phones
: > don't help much if at all. If you think you can drive safely while
: > you're talking on your cell phone, you are delusional.
:
: I agree.

I don't. Many activities (eating, smoking, arguing with a passenger, gawking
at attractive pedestrians, etc.) are more distracting to a driver than talking
on a cell phone, and it's easy to simply drop the phone if a sudden emergency
arises (in contrast, say, to what you have to do with a cigarette or a cup of
hot coffee). Downloading ringtones, the activity that supposedly kicked off
this thread, is an entirely different matter, of course. If the driver was
doing that and caused a fatal accident, she should certainly have been held
accountable. But that's not a reason to jump on the extremist anti-cell-phone
bandwagon. Many people use cell phones while driving, and most of those do it
safely.

Should a person with only one arm be prohibited from driving? I'm aware of no
State that takes that position. Most people would agree that a one-armed
person can safely drive a car with automatic transmission. Is a driver with a
cell phone in one hand any more impaired?

Laws against using a cell phone while driving are, in any case, largely
unenforceable. Absent erratic driving (an offense that stands on its own),
cell phone use isn't usually noticeable enough to attract a police officer's
attention.
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Since this is a tech group: I'd love to see a portable device that
> would deactivate or jam every cell phone within, say, 100 feet of my
> bike.

They would probably just start looking at their phone trying to determine
what's wrong with it.


> Hmm. Maybe replace the caller's voice with "Watch out for the bike!
> Watch out for the bike!" repeated over and over!
>
> - Frank Krygowski
>
 
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:17:33 GMT, "nash" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>>>Come back when you learn how to work a four-function calculator. The
>illiteracy and mis-spelling are acceptable, but you really can't
>expect to post numeric nonsense on a technical group without having
>your errors pointed out.
>
>You wrote the same rhetoric before.
>I was writing to Bicycles.misc the list I did not notice. I do not want to
>be in those groups it just happened. But now I will cut them out.
>
>Plus I am in the highest brain sex category by a British Study that you can
>be. I am meticulous about spelling and grammar and am smarter than most
>male brains and most female brains combined. I work 4X better than you Carl
>Fogel
>Too bad, you are plonked. DOA

Dear Nash,

Judging by your increasingly bizarre posts elsewhere, I suppose that
your "brain sex study" was on some television show ten years ago.

Possibly "The Simpsons"?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
 
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