Bus lane markings - new rules (?)

Discussion in 'UK and Europe' started by Pmailkeey, Feb 26, 2004.

  1. Graeme

    Graeme Guest



  2. Steph Peters

    Steph Peters Guest

    McBain_v1 <[email protected]> of cyclingforums.com wrote:

    >David Hansen wrote:
    > > I'm all for people cycling in "normal" clothes for going to the theatre and so on. A skirt
    > > either needs to be fairly long and very loose, or very short, to ride a diamond framed bike in.
    >
    >
    >
    >I find it worrying that you seem to know which skirts are okay to ride a diamond frame bike in. Are
    >you called "Davina" at the weekend or something ;)

    He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts. Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap
    all over the place. Middling length and not tight is best. Don't know about very short, I gave up
    mini skirts years before I learnt to ride a bike.

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  3. Andymorris

    Andymorris Guest

    McBain_v1 wrote:
    >
    > Complaints from women's groups will never go away, it is all our fault for being such a bunch of
    > peni$-weilding male oppressors :D

    Complaints like the one being discussed are never actually heard from 'womens groups' they are heard
    from sad old blokes complaining about 'womens groups'

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  4. David Hansen

    David Hansen Guest

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:41:46 +0000 someone who may be Steph Peters
    <[email protected]> wrote this:-

    >He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts.
    >Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap all
    >over the place.

    On a diamond framed bike it would drape over the tube
    without flapping around too much. I accept that I was wrong
    to type "very loose" and blame that on it being too early
    for my brain to be working properly.

    >Middling length and not tight is best.

    There is still the problem of getting on and off the bike.
    At a time when the mass media is full of a car designed by
    women I'm not convinced that the diamond frame design is the
    best in many circumstances.

    It's not just a female issue either, I much prefer designs
    that it is easy to get on and off.

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  5. David Martin

    David Martin Guest

    On 6/3/04 1:25 pm, in article [email protected],
    "David Hansen" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:41:46 +0000 someone who may be
    > Steph Peters <[email protected]>
    > wrote this:-
    >
    >> He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts.
    >> Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap all
    >> over the place.

    >
    > It's not just a female issue either, I much prefer designs
    > that it is easy to get on and off.

    Especially as you are posting from scotland..

    ..d
     
  6. Steph Peters

    Steph Peters Guest

    David Hansen <[email protected]> of wrote:

    >On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:41:46 +0000 someone who may be Steph
    >Peters <[email protected]> wrote this:-
    >
    >>He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts.
    >>Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap all
    >>over the place.
    >
    >On a diamond framed bike it would drape over the tube
    >without flapping around too much. I accept that I was wrong
    >to type "very loose" and blame that on it being too early
    >for my brain to be working properly.
    I have worn a long flappy skirt on a diamond frame bike, and
    mine did not drape nicely over the tube. Instead it flapped
    around all over the place, until the wind caught it and blew
    it upwards, exposing my stockings and suspenders to the
    world at large. Even though I was a penniless student at the
    time, I thereupon resolved never again to wear an evening
    dress while cycling.

    >There is still the problem of getting on and off the bike.
    >At a time when the mass media is full of a car designed by
    >women I'm not convinced that the diamond frame design is
    >the best in many circumstances.
    >
    >It's not just a female issue either, I much prefer designs
    >that it is easy to get on and off.
    Well so do I, but I've never found it a problem on a
    diamond frame. I've got a mixte frame which I could step
    through, but find that I'm too used to doing a leg over the
    rear wheel mount/dismount. Last week I had a set of shelves
    in the pannier that stuck out of the pannier by about 2
    feet vertically. So I had to mount the bike by stepping
    through, and found that I didn't have the knack of how to
    hold it so the bike wobbled all over the place. Give me a
    diamond frame any day.
    --
    The standard of intellect in politics is so low, men of moderate mental capacity
    have to stoop to reach it. - Hillaire Belloc
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email protected]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm
     
  7. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:25:40 +0000, Steph Peters
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >David Hansen <[email protected]> of wrote:
    >
    >>On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:41:46 +0000 someone who may be
    >>Steph Peters <[email protected]>
    >>wrote this:-
    >>
    >>>He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts.
    >>>Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap all
    >>>over the place.
    >>
    >>On a diamond framed bike it would drape over the tube
    >>without flapping around too much. I accept that I was
    >>wrong to type "very loose" and blame that on it being too
    >>early for my brain to be working properly.
    >I have worn a long flappy skirt on a diamond frame bike,
    >and mine did not drape nicely over the tube. Instead it
    >flapped around all over the place, until the wind caught it
    >and blew it upwards, exposing my stockings and suspenders
    >to the world at large. Even though I was a penniless
    >student at the time, I thereupon resolved never again to
    >wear an evening dress while cycling.

    I *never* wear a skirt, so can't imagine what a pain it must
    be having to choose a bike according to what's in the
    wardrobe. No, that's not quite true. I wore a dress for our
    wedding, and I was forced to wear a skirt for my graduation
    (Oxford Uni didn't allow females to wear trousers). On
    neither occasion did I have any need to ride a bike
    :)

    --

    Debbie Urban Theology Unit, Sheffield Views expressed in
    this email are my own and are not necessarily those of the
    University of Sheffield or UTU.
     
  8. David Hansen wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:41:46 +0000 someone who may be
    > Steph Peters <[email protected]>
    > wrote this:-
    >
    >>He can't be, because he's wrong about the skirts.
    >>Fairly long and loose is bad, because they flap all
    >>over the place.
    >
    > On a diamond framed bike it would drape over the tube
    > without flapping around too much. I accept that I was
    > wrong to type "very loose" and blame that on it being too
    > early for my brain to be working properly.
    >
    >>Middling length and not tight is best.
    >
    > There is still the problem of getting on and off the bike.
    > At a time when the mass media is full of a car designed by
    > women I'm not convinced that the diamond frame design is
    > the best in many circumstances.
    >
    > It's not just a female issue either, I much prefer designs
    > that it is easy to get on and off.

    When I used to ride one of those upright MTB monstrosities,
    I slipped off the saddle a few times and landed on the bar.
    IMO us males would be well advised to avoid 'men's bikes'
    whenever possible.

    AC
     
  9. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

    Steph Peters <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > I have worn a long flappy skirt on a diamond frame bike,
    > and mine did not drape nicely over the tube. Instead it
    > flapped around all over the place, until the wind caught
    > it and blew it upwards, exposing my stockings and
    > suspenders to the world at large.

    Stop it! You're getting David all hot and flustered :)

    Graeme
     
  10. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

    anonymous coward <[email protected]> wrote in news:c2gsoq$pcq
    [email protected]:

    > When I used to ride one of those upright MTB
    > monstrosities, I slipped off the saddle a few times and
    > landed on the bar. IMO us males would be well advised to
    > avoid 'men's bikes' whenever possible.
    >

    Try hitting something head on at a decent speed and being
    projected rapidly into the stem. The cross bar is almost
    pleasurable by comparison
    ><
    O

    Graeme
     
  11. David Hansen

    David Hansen Guest

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:39:14 +0000 someone who may be Debbie
    <[email protected]> wrote this:-

    >I *never* wear a skirt, [snip] I was forced to wear a skirt
    >for my graduation

    Did you hire it or borrow it?

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  12. David Hansen

    David Hansen Guest

    On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 08:47:05 GMT someone who may be Graeme
    <[email protected]> wrote this:-

    >Stop it! You're getting David all hot and flustered :)

    Sadly not, I must be getting too old:)

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  13. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

    David Hansen <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:p[email protected]:

    >>Stop it! You're getting David all hot and flustered :)
    >
    > Sadly not, I must be getting too old:)
    >

    So it must just have been me then :)

    Graeme
     
  14. Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
    > Graeme <[email protected]>typed
    >
    >
    >> Helen Deborah Vecht <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> news:[email protected]:
    >
    >>>> So what's an avatar ?
    >>>
    >>> Long wheelbase recumbent from the 1980s IIRC...
    >>>
    >
    >> The Avatar 2000 (scary picture at http://www.legslarry.b-
    >> eerdrinkers.co.uk/mags/BMMay82_01.htm) was the first
    >> recumbent I ever saw a picture of, back in about 1981 in
    >> the magazine "Science Now" (I think). I've been wanting a
    >> recumbent ever since!
    >
    > I saw a *real* on, with its owner on a train in the early
    > '80s. I was a poor student at the time but was envious. It
    > was a beauty! Had a chat with the owner...
    >
    > ISTR a feature on it in 'Bicycle' magazine.

    Better yet, I fell off the very one pictured on my web site.
    A Several of times. Never could get the hang of LWB...

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
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  15. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:22:54 +0000, David Hansen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:39:14 +0000 someone who may be
    >Debbie <[email protected]> wrote this:-
    >
    >>I *never* wear a skirt, [snip] I was forced to wear a
    >>skirt for my graduation
    >
    >Did you hire it or borrow it?

    I bought it - at the same time as I bought my hood, gown and
    mortar board. I decided that I wanted a few souvenirs. None
    has been used since.

    --

    Debbie Urban Theology Unit, Sheffield Views expressed in
    this email are my own and are not necessarily those of the
    University of Sheffield or UTU.
     
  16. Pmailkeey

    Pmailkeey Guest

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:02:05 GMT, McBain_v1
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    :)David Hansen wrote: ) > I'm all for people cycling in
    :"normal" clothes for going to the theatre ) > and so on. A
    :skirt either needs to be fairly long and very loose, or ) >
    :very short, to ride a diamond framed bike in. ) ) ) )I find
    :it worrying that you seem to know which skirts are okay to
    :ride a )diamond frame bike in. Are you called "Davina" at
    :the weekend or )something ;)

    Personally, I prefer short skirts ;) (on women, that is !)
    --
    Comm again, Mike.
     
  17. Pmailkeey

    Pmailkeey Guest

    On 5 Mar 2004 01:53:01 -0800, [email protected] (Dave Kahn) wrote:

    :)[email protected] (pmailkeey) wrote in
    :message news:<[email protected]>... )>
    :On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:51:24 GMT, McBain_v1 )> <usenet-
    :[email protected]> wrote: ) )> :)There's someone on
    :the Road Bike Review forum threads who uses that )>
    ::)picture as his avatar. )> :) )> )> So what's an avatar ?
    :) )It's the human or animal incarnation of a Hindu deity.
    :In this context )it's an image used to represent the poster
    :eek:n the forum.

    That ties in well with where I saw the word recently !

    Thanks.

    PS - and agrees with the definition in a computing
    dictionary I got for my birthday today !
    --
    Comm again, Mike.
     
  18. Pmailkeey

    Pmailkeey Guest

    On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:51:28 GMT, Graeme
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    :)Helen Deborah Vecht <[email protected]> wrote in
    :)news:[email protected]: ) )>> So what's an
    :avatar ? )> )> Long wheelbase recumbent from the 1980s
    :IIRC... )> ) )The Avatar 2000 (scary picture at )http://ww-
    :w.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/mags/BMMay82_01.htm) was the
    :first )recumbent I ever saw a picture of, back in about
    :1981 in the magazine )"Science Now" (I think). I've been
    :wanting a recumbent ever since!

    Odd ! I first came across the word on a web site about a
    week ago and it was nothing to do with recumbents !
    --
    Comm again, Mike.
     
  19. Dave Kahn

    Dave Kahn Guest

    [email protected] (pmailkeey) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On 5 Mar 2004 01:53:01 -0800, [email protected] (Dave
    > Kahn) wrote:

    > :)It's the human or animal incarnation of a Hindu deity.
    > :In this context )it's an image used to represent the
    > :poster on the forum.
    >
    > That ties in well with where I saw the word recently !
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > PS - and agrees with the definition in a computing
    > dictionary I got for my birthday today !

    The dictionary's probably right then. :)

    Many happy returns for yesterday BTW.

    --
    Dave...
     
  20. Pmailkeey

    Pmailkeey Guest

    On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:25:16 +0000, David Hansen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    :)It's not just a female issue either, I much prefer designs
    :that it )is easy to get on and off. )

    Usually getting off comes naturally after you've stopped !
    --
    Comm again, Mike.
     
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