On Nov 30, 9:31 am, MagillaGorilla <
[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 2:10 am, MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>
> >>>On Nov 29, 5:59 pm, "xzzy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>K. Gringioni.
>
> >>>>Dumbass
>
> >>>>and further
>
> >>>> Marion Jones,
>
> >>>> Virenque, Festina, . . .
>
> >>>> the tour of france for removing from the results, racers who admit to
> >>>>racing drugged, but not removing france's racers convicted of racing the tof
> >>>>drugged
>
> >>>> the tour of france for changing the results of a drug test in order
> >>>>remove from the results, Floyd Landis, because an American cyclist had won
> >>>>their country's race for the 8th year in a row.
>
> >>>Dumbasses -
>
> >>>LemonD (and OJ Simpson) stand out from the rest because all those
> >>>examples you all give, while being excellent specimens of sporting
> >>>disgrace, all sullied their reputations with actions performed
> >>>*during* their career.
>
> >>>LemonD (and OJ) are unique in that they had exceptionally stellar
> >>>careers, then blackened their reputations with jackassian behavior
> >>>well after they had retired.
>
> >>>I'm sure there are other examples of this phenomenon, but I can't, at
> >>>the moment, think of others who have done it as publicly.
>
> >>>Any other examples? Buehler?
>
> >>>thanks,
>
> >>>K. Gringioni.
>
> >>I use to think that too until I listened to the phone call LeMond
> >>surreptitiously recorded between him and Lance's Oaklay agent Stephanie
> >>McIlvain where McIlvain clearly indicated she heard Lance admit to using
> >> drugs in that hospital room. She has no motive to lie about her bread
> >>and butter client.
>
> >>She also implicated Hincapie in being a big-time doper and said his baby
> >>would probably turn out deformed from all the drugs he did. It was
> >>pretty funny stuff.
>
> >>Prior to hearing that phone call, LeMond came across as a jealous
> >>bagpipe. After listening to it, LeMond comes across as a one-man
> >>Woodward & Bernstein show.
>
> > Lemond is a jealous bagpipe who is lucky he didn't dope when he could
> > be caught-- can't ride in the Giro, wins the Tour in the same year?
>
> > Give us a break.
>
> > If the guy next to you can dope with little-to-no fear of being
> > caught, the fault is with the rule makers.
>
> > "Cleansing Sport for corporate sponsorship". Go Enron! --D-y
>
> LeMond did in fact ride in the Giro when he won the Tour in his
> coomeback year of 1989. If you recall, he got like 2nd in the Giro time
> trial, but up until that time was having a miserable Giro, most likely
> because he was a bit overweight and underraced.
>
> EPO wasn't even in use back then, so what drugs was he doing?
Dumbass -
EPO wasn't used in bike racing, but it was available. The FDA approved
it in 1989 and it had been in clinical trials before then.
There's a theory that what ol' Otto Jacome shot LemonD up with in the
Giro to facilitate his miraculous recovery was more than just iron. I
mean, you're anemic, then suddenly your blood goes back to normal w/
some iron? Hmmmmmm . . . . .
There's a school of thought that it was actually LemonD whom
introduced it to bike racing.
Normally, I wouldn't speculate like that, but since LemonD does it to
others, it may as well be done to him in turn.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
