even though i don't think sherwin, roll, liggett, or troutlips are esp. good, i enjoy all of them. however, robbie ventura and frankie andreu are the two biggest pieces of **** in cycling broadcasting. both are total cotchkies, dumb as ****, and annoying to look at. chris carmichael was hard ot sit through when he was on too. anyone who knows anything about cycling knows that turd had nothign to do with lance except provide a face for lance's coaching business. lance's actual coaches = johan bruyneel, and michele ferrari.