Mountain Bikers TROUNCED in Los Angeles!

[Gary S.]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 06:35:37 -0300, Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

>* Gary S <Idontwantspam@net>:
>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:29:15 -0400, pmhilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Gary S. wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mikie actually puts very little effort into his crusade, although he
>>>>appears to spend much time at it.
>>>>
>>>With a few floppies full of boilerplate, one could spam the known
>>>universe w/ less effort than, say, 1/2 hour per day.
>>>
>>>Pete H
>>
>> And, using the scientific method, Mikie has provided proof.
>>
>> Happy trails,
>> Gary (net.yogi.bear)
>
>Proof of what? That's he's a sad pathetic man who's only fun is trolling
>usenet? Then yes he's definatly provided ample proof. Of anything else
>not so much.
>
>Jason

Exactly. He has proved that it is possible to advocate an idea by
dumping recycled boilerplate to many different newsgroups and mailing
lists, without really putting in much effort.

If he really cared about his cause, he would work harder and in a way
that might actually convince others.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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[Richard]

Hmm,

This looks like it's a
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
thread.

Anyway, in my country, one of these kind of environmentalist's shot a
politician. So in my opinion, maybe it's a good idea to wear a bullit-proof
vest i.s.o. the normal downhill body armour and helmets. This wacko is
probably stalking around some biketrail in the near future to have a shot
at a biker.

Happy trails!

 

[Gary S.]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:30:57 +0000 (UTC), Richard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This looks like it's a
>loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
>thread.
>
>Anyway, in my country, one of these kind of environmentalist's shot a
>politician. So in my opinion, maybe it's a good idea to wear a bullit-proof
>vest i.s.o. the normal downhill body armour and helmets. This wacko is
>probably stalking around some biketrail in the near future to have a shot
>at a biker.
>
Mikey has often cheered on the placement of traps to injure or kill
mountain bikers and hikers.

However, he is not the direct action type, but instead tries to trick
others into doing what he wants.

Someday he might lose it, and attack someone.

There are many other whackos out there, who also think that their
opinions are more important than laws, ethics and morals, and who will
act on that.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
--
At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:10:52 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]>
wrote:

..On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:45:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
..wrote in message <[email protected]>:
..
..>.I guess you should tell the horse riders that they aren't allowed their
..>.inanimate saddles, horseshoes or bridles next. Nor their horsefloats or
..>.vehicles.
..
..>Why don't YOU tell them?
..
..Because telling other people what do based on entirely arbitrary
..criteria is /your/ speciality.

BS. You just can't stand having the truth told about mountain biking.

..Guy

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[Mike Vandeman]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:25:44 +0100, "NeXuS" <[email protected]> wrote:

..
..> You still haven't answered the question. What does the harm that mountain
..> biking
..> does have to do with horseback riding (hint: NOTHING)?
..
..Ok then, EVERYTHING......... They do just as much damage. Learn to flame
..properly schoolgirl.

Wrong answer. They are totally unrelated. DUH!
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:42:55 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote:

.."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..news:[email protected]...
..> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:09:19 GMT, "Scott Ehardt"
..> <SCEhardt--((REM@VE))--SCEhardt.com> wrote:
..>
..> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..> .news:[email protected]...
..> .> Proof? In fact, IMBA has a study on their web site showing that the
..vast
..> .> MAJORITY of mountain bikers don't obey the law.
..> .
..> .Would you care to provide a link?
..>
..> They removed it. I guess they realized it wasn't favorable to mountain
..biking.
..> The study was done in Marin County. The vast majority of mountain bikers
..rode
..> through a stream, in spite of a sign saying to use the bridge.
..
..Mikey - If this "study" ever really existed, a copy of the page should be
..somewhere (e.g., http://www.archive.org/ )...unless you're lying, or deluded
..(my bet's on the latter).

You should be smart enough to find it. Or even easier, ask IMBA for a copy.

..GG
..
..> ===
..> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..>
..> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..

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[Mike Vandeman]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:16:16 -0500, "di" <[email protected]> wrote:

..From Mike's post on 04/05/05, 10:42pm
..
..
..> BS.
..>
..> 1. I am not supporting them. I just reported what happened.
..> 2. It doesn't take an SUV to ride a horse. I've ridden horses, and I have
..> never
..> owned an SUV.
..
..
..From an earlier Post, on 04/04/05, 10:15am
..
..
..>.Just one question that needs to asked Mike.
..>
..>.Do you ride a horse yourself?
..>
..>No, I don't believe in using animals as vehicles. What does that have to do
..>with
..>the harm done to natural areas by mountain biking????
..>
..
..What is it Mike, do you ride horses or not?

I don't. The last times I rode was 1948 & 1971. TWICE.

I would even bet you own a
..big SUV, Don't lie now!!!
..

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[Gary S.]

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:56:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You are right: they ARE stupid enough to do that. In fact, one just killed
>himself recently that way.
>
The deliberate placement of a trap by another person, which is being
investigated by the police, is not the same as suicide.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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[Gary S.]

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:11:20 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm not supporting horseback riding.
>
So you did deliberately mislead and trick the equestrian people into
helping you in your mountain bike crusade.

What other lies have you told to further your cause?

Or will you lie again, and claim that every word you utter is
incontrivertable truth?

Repeating something many times does not make it truth.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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[GaryG]

"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:37:43 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> ."Slack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .news:[email protected]...
> .> NeXuS wrote:
> .> > "Shaun aRe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .> > news:[email protected]...
> .> >
> .> >>"NeXuS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .> >>news:[email protected]...
> .> >>
> .> >>>"Slack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .> >>>news:[email protected]...
> .> >>>
> .> >>>>The Wogster wrote:
> .> >>>>
> .> >>>>
> .> >>>>>And for those who like to "thrash their guts out" there are other
> .> >>
> .> >>issues
> .> >>
> .> >>>>>too, first they can wreck it for everyone, second they can wreck
> .> >>>>>themselves too, I have seen on TV, mountain bikers in action, and
um,
> .> >>>>>that can't be good for a persons body, even with full
> .> >>>>>suspensions......
> .> >>>>>Wonder how many of those guys will find that at age 50 they have
> .> >>
> .> >>serious
> .> >>
> .> >>>>>medical issues.....
> .> >>>>>
> .> >>>>>
> .> >>>>>W
> .> >>>>>
> .> >>>>>
> .> >>>>
> .> >>>>That was pretty funny, you little jelly fish.
> .> >>>
> .> >>>You don't think he has a valid point?
> .> >>
> .> >>*Invalid* point, aka *erectile dysfunction* - HTH.
> .> >>
> .> >>
> .> >
> .> > Very funny.
> .> >
> .> >
> .> Once in awhile, Shaun whips out a decent one.
> .> --
> .> Slack
> .
> .Speaking of whipping out...I wonder when was the last time Vandyman got
> .laid? I'm guessing it's been a very long time. I've asked him on prior
> .occasions if he has any close personal relationships in the real world,
but
> .he's chosen to ignore the question. Given the depths of his obsession,
it
> .seems very unlikely that he has a life beyond his incessant
posting...thus
> .his manic spiral into extremism. Even the environmentalists think he's
> .nuts.
>
> "All great truths begin as blasphemies." George Bernard Shaw

LOL - I'm sure Ted Kaczynski would have cited that same quotaton, Mikey.

Sometimes, a nut is just a nut. However, if it makes you feel better to
think of yourself as a "prophet without honor", go right ahead...small
comfort for your wasted life.

GG

>
> .GG
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[GaryG]

"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:42:55 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .news:[email protected]...
> .> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:09:19 GMT, "Scott Ehardt"
> .> <SCEhardt--((REM@VE))--SCEhardt.com> wrote:
> .>
> .> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .> .news:[email protected]...
> .> .> Proof? In fact, IMBA has a study on their web site showing that the
> .vast
> .> .> MAJORITY of mountain bikers don't obey the law.
> .> .
> .> .Would you care to provide a link?
> .>
> .> They removed it. I guess they realized it wasn't favorable to mountain
> .biking.
> .> The study was done in Marin County. The vast majority of mountain
bikers
> .rode
> .> through a stream, in spite of a sign saying to use the bridge.
> .
> .Mikey - If this "study" ever really existed, a copy of the page should be
> .somewhere (e.g., http://www.archive.org/ )...unless you're lying, or
deluded
> .(my bet's on the latter).
>
> You should be smart enough to find it. Or even easier, ask IMBA for a
copy.

You're the one making the claim here, Mikey.

>
> .GG
> .
> .> ===
> .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> .> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> .> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> .>
> .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> .
>
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Fole Haafstra]

Get your ego under control man. Your endless posts are silly. Write a book
'cause no one pays homage to usenet self-styled experts anymore.


"Gary S." <Idontwantspam@net> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:56:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >You are right: they ARE stupid enough to do that. In fact, one just
killed
> >himself recently that way.
> >
> The deliberate placement of a trap by another person, which is being
> investigated by the police, is not the same as suicide.
>
> Happy trails,
> Gary (net.yogi.bear)
> --
> At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence
>
> Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
> Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

 

[Chris Glidden]

"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:18:23 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> .
> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> .news:[email protected]...
> .> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:32 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
> .> <[email protected]>
> .> wrote:
> .>
> .> .
> .> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote
> .> .(Snip other person's accomplishments)
> .> .
> .> .What have you done lately Mike? Besides posting the same old tired
> out
> .> .drivel you've been posting for years.
> .>
> .> See my web site.
> .> ===
> .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> .> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> .> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> .>
> .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> .I read your website 10 years ago and have checked back periodically. It
> .hasn't changed.
>
> You are lying. It changes almost daily.
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Content may change but there is nothing new there, it's the same tired old
rhetoric you've been spewing for years.

 

[GaryG]

"Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:riy6e.746$xE2.685@fed1read04...
>
> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:18:23 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > .
> > ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > .news:[email protected]...
> > .> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:32 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
> > .> <[email protected]>
> > .> wrote:
> > .>
> > .> .
> > .> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote
> > .> .(Snip other person's accomplishments)
> > .> .
> > .> .What have you done lately Mike? Besides posting the same old tired
> > out
> > .> .drivel you've been posting for years.
> > .>
> > .> See my web site.
> > .> ===
> > .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> > .> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> > .> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> > .>
> > .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> > .I read your website 10 years ago and have checked back periodically.
It
> > .hasn't changed.
> >
> > You are lying. It changes almost daily.
> > ===
> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >
> > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
> Content may change but there is nothing new there, it's the same tired old
> rhetoric you've been spewing for years.
>
>

Do you suppose Mikey's parents are proud of him? Do they email links to his
web page to friends and acquaintances? Do they mention Mike's work to
"fight auto dependence" in their Christmas letters?

Or, do they worry about him wasting his life on such a trivial obsession?

GG

 

[Gary S.]

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:00:35 -0400, "Fole Haafstra"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Gary S." <Idontwantspam@net> wrote in message
>news[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:56:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >You are right: they ARE stupid enough to do that. In fact, one just
>killed
>> >himself recently that way.
>> >
>> The deliberate placement of a trap by another person, which is being
>> investigated by the police, is not the same as suicide.
>>
>> Happy trails,
>> Gary (net.yogi.bear)

>Get your ego under control man. Your endless posts are silly. Write a book
>'cause no one pays homage to usenet self-styled experts anymore.
>
My ego is clearly dwarfed by that of someone who speaks for every
reader of Usenet. With an almost 4 month history of posting to back it
up.

You would have a teensy bit more credibility if you posted the same
message to Mikie or to any of the "politics only" posters on
rec.backcountry.

I do not claim to be an expert, but do have some relevant experience
and knowledge.

In the message above, I was posting a correction to Mikie's statement
that the mountain biker who was killed deliberately chose to kill
himself. Mikie is taking advantage of a person's death, at the hands
of another person who chose to place a deadly trap, for his own
crusade where human life means nothing.

Apparently you support his crusade, by only criticizing those who
disagree with him or you.

Must be a difficult world to live in, when people have the gall to not
do things your way. You have a lot in common with Mikie.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
--
At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:33:18 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:

..On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:56:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
..wrote:
..
..>You are right: they ARE stupid enough to do that. In fact, one just killed
..>himself recently that way.
..>
..The deliberate placement of a trap by another person, which is being
..investigated by the police, is not the same as suicide.

The cause of death is not the tree, but the STOOPIDITY of the mountain biker --
a type of suicide. Darwin was right.

..Happy trails,
..Gary (net.yogi.bear)

===
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:42:41 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:

..On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:00:35 -0400, "Fole Haafstra"
..<[email protected]> wrote:
..
..>"Gary S." <Idontwantspam@net> wrote in message
..>news[email protected]...
..>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:56:54 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
..>> wrote:
..>>
..>> >You are right: they ARE stupid enough to do that. In fact, one just
..>killed
..>> >himself recently that way.
..>> >
..>> The deliberate placement of a trap by another person, which is being
..>> investigated by the police, is not the same as suicide.
..>>
..>> Happy trails,
..>> Gary (net.yogi.bear)
..
..>Get your ego under control man. Your endless posts are silly. Write a book
..>'cause no one pays homage to usenet self-styled experts anymore.
..>
..My ego is clearly dwarfed by that of someone who speaks for every
..reader of Usenet. With an almost 4 month history of posting to back it
..up.
..
..You would have a teensy bit more credibility if you posted the same
..message to Mikie or to any of the "politics only" posters on
..rec.backcountry.
..
..I do not claim to be an expert, but do have some relevant experience
..and knowledge.
..
..In the message above, I was posting a correction to Mikie's statement
..that the mountain biker who was killed deliberately chose to kill
..himself.

Yes, by not riding with the proper caution. That was a conscious decision.

Mikie is taking advantage of a person's death, at the hands
..of another person who chose to place a deadly trap, for his own
..crusade where human life means nothing.
..
..Apparently you support his crusade, by only criticizing those who
..disagree with him or you.
..
..Must be a difficult world to live in, when people have the gall to not
..do things your way. You have a lot in common with Mikie.
..
..Happy trails,
..Gary (net.yogi.bear)

===
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:17:14 -0700, "Chris Glidden" <[email protected]>
wrote:

..
.."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..news:[email protected]...
..> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:18:23 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
..> <[email protected]>
..> wrote:
..>
..> .
..> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..> .news:[email protected]...
..> .> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:32 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
..> .> <[email protected]>
..> .> wrote:
..> .>
..> .> .
..> .> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote
..> .> .(Snip other person's accomplishments)
..> .> .
..> .> .What have you done lately Mike? Besides posting the same old tired
..> out
..> .> .drivel you've been posting for years.
..> .>
..> .> See my web site.
..> .> ===
..> .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> .> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> .> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..> .>
..> .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..> .I read your website 10 years ago and have checked back periodically. It
..> .hasn't changed.
..>
..> You are lying. It changes almost daily.
..> ===
..> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..>
..> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..
..Content may change but there is nothing new there, it's the same tired old
..rhetoric you've been spewing for years.

You couldn't detect anything new if it hit you in the head.
===
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[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:39:11 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote:

.."Chris Glidden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..news:riy6e.746$xE2.685@fed1read04...
..>
..> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..> news:[email protected]...
..> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:18:23 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
..> > <[email protected]>
..> > wrote:
..> >
..> > .
..> > ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
..> > .news:[email protected]...
..> > .> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:32 -0700, "Chris Glidden"
..> > .> <[email protected]>
..> > .> wrote:
..> > .>
..> > .> .
..> > .> ."Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote
..> > .> .(Snip other person's accomplishments)
..> > .> .
..> > .> .What have you done lately Mike? Besides posting the same old tired
..> > out
..> > .> .drivel you've been posting for years.
..> > .>
..> > .> See my web site.
..> > .> ===
..> > .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> > .> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> > .> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..> > .>
..> > .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..> > .I read your website 10 years ago and have checked back periodically.
..It
..> > .hasn't changed.
..> >
..> > You are lying. It changes almost daily.
..> > ===
..> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..> >
..> > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..>
..> Content may change but there is nothing new there, it's the same tired old
..> rhetoric you've been spewing for years.
..>
..>
..
..Do you suppose Mikey's parents are proud of him? Do they email links to his
..web page to friends and acquaintances? Do they mention Mike's work to
.."fight auto dependence" in their Christmas letters?
..
..Or, do they worry about him wasting his life on such a trivial obsession?
..
..GG

Why the obsession with ME? I can't think of a more trivial pursuit....
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:19:15 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:

..On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 03:11:20 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
..wrote:
..
..>I'm not supporting horseback riding.
..>
..So you did deliberately mislead and trick the equestrian people into
..helping you in your mountain bike crusade.

No, they do that of their own free will -- because they are intelligent.

..What other lies have you told to further your cause?

None.

..Or will you lie again, and claim that every word you utter is
..incontrivertable truth?
..
..Repeating something many times does not make it truth.

You have yet to say even ONE true statement.

..Happy trails,
..Gary (net.yogi.bear)

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande