OT: a smug moment

[JohnB]

MSeries wrote:

> I wouldn't know, cycling is the only exercise I have ever done for the
> sake of it. I read an article about Max Sciandri which looked and
> discussed his body before and after the Tour de France (when he rode
> it), it said the same there. Despite him looking thinner he still had a
> belly.

Indurain also had a paunch. I beleive this was caused by the large lung
size which pushed down on the top of the stomach causing it to protrude out.

Personally I prefer Ullrich's solution of pies and beer to obtain the
same result ;-)

John B

 

[Julesh]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> "dkahn400" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Julesh wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Quite right - It sound like I'm pretty much the same build as you.
>>>I was 17 stone and flabby before I restarted cycling last year. I now
>>>ride about 100-120 miles a week in pointless commuting [1] and are
>>>down to about 16 stone. I'm now trying to eat more fresh food and
>>
>>less
>>
>>>**** and expect the remainder of the belly and the spare chins will
>>>fall off in time.
>>
>>With sensible eating and that sort of mileage the excess should just
>>continue to melt slowly away. While I'm pleased for Helen with her
>>weight loss, and impressed by her willpower, I can't help but worry
>>whether it's sustainable. It shouldn't really be necessary IMO to weigh
>>your food.
>
>
> Alas, when you are severely overweight - as I was - part of losing weight is
> retrining brain & stomach on portion control & what is *healthy* amounts of
> the various food groups. For me, and for a lot of others, it means weighing
> food before eating it. That is the effective guarantee that you are
> correctly controlling what goes in the mouth. I do not expect to sustain the
> rate of loss I've experienced in the last 8 weeks - it would unrealistic and
> unhealthy to expect such. I fully expect and accept the rate will slow and
> possibly stop for a while until the average weekly weight loss long term is
> a couple of pounds a week. When you've got a lot of flab to lose, you tend
> to lose a lot quickly and then it slows.
>
>
>>Having said that, WeightWatchers is better than many
>>programmes in that it does have a maintenance regime to follow once
>>you've reached your goal weight. If Helen can keep that up indefinitely
>>she might be able to avoid the usual post diet rebound.
>
>
> Many years ago I did WW and kept weight off for three years. It was a
> combination of illness & inactivity that allowed me to start piling on the
> pounds again. By the way, I'm not on a diet - I'm on a healthy-eating plan.
> "Diet" suggests a stop - I have to take a long-term view
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
>>--
>>Dave...
>>
>
>
>
Helen,
Firstly - well done to you for the weight loss. I was a little
worried from your first posting in this thread that you might be
thinking this was going to be simple. I know how easy it is to rebound
to your original weight or more once you come of a reducing diet. I now
see that you have the excellent attitude of not thinking about "Diets"
but more about sensible eating for the rest of your life.

Good Luck - and let us know how you are getting on.


julesh

 

[Julesh]

JohnB wrote:
> MSeries wrote:
>
>
>>I wouldn't know, cycling is the only exercise I have ever done for the
>>sake of it. I read an article about Max Sciandri which looked and
>>discussed his body before and after the Tour de France (when he rode
>>it), it said the same there. Despite him looking thinner he still had a
>>belly.
>
>
> Indurain also had a paunch. I beleive this was caused by the large lung
> size which pushed down on the top of the stomach causing it to protrude out.
>
> Personally I prefer Ullrich's solution of pies and beer to obtain the
> same result ;-)
>
> John B

That's good news about Indurain - I'l try that on my wife "It's lung
development caused by cycling."

I didn't really find my "aerobelly" a problem until I bought a road
bike. Its fine when riding on the hoods but needs a small amount of
"adjustment" when I go for the drops.


Julesh

 

[JohnB]

Julesh wrote:
>
> JohnB wrote:

> > Indurain also had a paunch. I beleive this was caused by the large lung
> > size which pushed down on the top of the stomach causing it to protrude out.
> >
> > Personally I prefer Ullrich's solution of pies and beer to obtain the
> > same result ;-)
> >
> > John B
>
> That's good news about Indurain - I'l try that on my wife "It's lung
> development caused by cycling."

It doesn't work :-((

> I didn't really find my "aerobelly" a problem until I bought a road
> bike. Its fine when riding on the hoods but needs a small amount of
> "adjustment" when I go for the drops.

You clearly need to join the dark side

John B

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"Julesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Helen,
> Firstly - well done to you for the weight loss. I was a little
> worried from your first posting in this thread that you might be thinking
> this was going to be simple. I know how easy it is to rebound to your
> original weight or more once you come of a reducing diet. I now see that
> you have the excellent attitude of not thinking about "Diets" but more
> about sensible eating for the rest of your life.
>
> Good Luck - and let us know how you are getting on.
>
>
> julesh

Thanks Julesh. If I want to lose my excess flab and keep it off, I *have* to
have my head around the concept of eating healthily. Like many a person,
I've fought the flab for years and I am under no illusions about the ease of
it - especially when previous years of chronic ill-health and subsequent bad
eating has taken its toll.

Cheers, helen s

 

[Call me Bob]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:27:01 +0000, David Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Bah! I last saw 75kg when I was an undergrad and riding 200 miles a
>>> week. My scales broke around christmas so I am unfortunately working
>>> on the inches of belt method.
>>
>> With a final twanging sound and broken springs and bits of dial flying
>> across the room?
>
>No. With a pool of water on the bathroom floor..
>
>Nothing quite so destructive as a three year old..

Except a 4 year old.


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[David Martin]

On 11/2/05 5:24 pm, in article [email protected],
"Call me Bob" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:27:01 +0000, David Martin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> Bah! I last saw 75kg when I was an undergrad and riding 200 miles a
>>>> week. My scales broke around christmas so I am unfortunately working
>>>> on the inches of belt method.
>>>
>>> With a final twanging sound and broken springs and bits of dial flying
>>> across the room?
>>
>> No. With a pool of water on the bathroom floor..
>>
>> Nothing quite so destructive as a three year old..
>
> Except a 4 year old.

Possibly. It is the preschool age where they gain ability to do stuff
without the self control to not do it..

...d

 

[Graham Bowers (Zen)]

MSeries wrote:

>>
> Just send me £2 per week and I'll tell you you are a f*t b*****d ;-)
I'd pay more than that to be told I was fit!
Graham

 

[Succorso]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
> last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off
>
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>

:-o

That's a *lot*!! Puts me to shame!

Well done.

--
Chris

 

[Mark Thompson]

>> Just send me £2 per week and I'll tell you you are a f*t b*****d ;-)

> I'd pay more than that to be told I was fit!
> Graham

You're fit.

Please contact me off group to arrange payment.

 

[Paul - xxx]

Mark Thompson composed the following;:
>>> Just send me £2 per week and I'll tell you you are a f*t b*****d ;-)
>
>> I'd pay more than that to be told I was fit!
>> Graham
>
> You're fit.

Nope, you're wrong ... he _was_ fit ...

> Please contact me off group to arrange payment.

My reply email address is correct .....

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[Jon Senior]

pk wrote:
>>If you are consuming less than you are burning then you will feel
>>hungry. You will also lose weight. When I was seriously losing weight
>>this was about a kilo a week and I felt hungry.
>
>
>
> Wrong!

Eh? Which bit. You will find it very hard to lose weight if you consume
more energy than you use. Depending on what you eat and when, this may
or may not have the effect of making you feel hungry. In my experience,
reaching this balance after Christmas / New year / general "it's winter
and I fancy something sweet" usually results in a period of a week or so
of feeling hungry.

Jon

 

[Tony Raven]

Jon Senior wrote:

>
> Eh? Which bit. You will find it very hard to lose weight if you consume
> more energy than you use.

Not quite. You will if your net energy intake exceeds your energy usage
but remember not all energy consumed stays in the body - some is excreted.

Tony

 

[Jon Senior]

Tony Raven wrote:
> Not quite. You will if your net energy intake exceeds your energy usage
> but remember not all energy consumed stays in the body - some is excreted.

OK. Consume was the wrong word. Absorbed might have been a better choice.

Jon "I've got a degree in this apparently!" Senior

 

[Graham Bowers (Zen)]

Mark Thompson wrote:
>>>Just send me £2 per week and I'll tell you you are a f*t b*****d ;-)
>
>
>>I'd pay more than that to be told I was fit!
>>Graham
>
>
> You're fit.
>
> Please contact me off group to arrange payment.
No I'm not, I was fit )

 

[Graham Bowers (Zen)]

Paul - *** wrote:

> Mark Thompson composed the following;:
>
>>>> Just send me £2 per week and I'll tell you you are a f*t b*****d ;-)
>>
>>
>>> I'd pay more than that to be told I was fit!
>>> Graham
>>
>>
>> You're fit.
>
>
> Nope, you're wrong ... he _was_ fit ...
>
>> Please contact me off group to arrange payment.
>
>
> My reply email address is correct .....
>
How did you know?

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"Succorso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> :-o
>
> That's a *lot*!! Puts me to shame!
>
> Well done.
>
> --
> Chris

Thanks - but I've a lot to lose and when you've a lot to lose, it's easy to
lose a fair bit quite quickly. The long-term effort is what requires the
real effort & determination.

Too darned windy & cold out there for me to be doing an Audax. I am a wimp -
BAH!

Cheers, helen s

 

[David Martin]

jas0n wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>>Unfortunately ones belly is the last thing to go if cycling is the
>>>main form of exercise.
>>
>>I always understood that this was the last thing to go (in men) full stop?

> It differs person to person .... you cannot target weight loss to any
> part of your body

Not by modulating input and output.. Surgery is hopefully targetted,
though a somewhat drastic approach.

...d

 

[Steve]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Helen C Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In
>>>the last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping
>>>it off
>>
>>Wow, that's a lot. But what's that in percentage terms?
>>
>
>
> Not enough ;-)
>
> I still have a long way to go. Onwards & downwards.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
Paul Jeffries in his book 'Diary of a fat man' had two motivational
methods that I found most innovative.

1. Take photos, side and face, in the same clothes, same place, every
month ( more like week in your case! )

2. If you feel yourself slipping, take all your clothes off, stand in
front of a full length mirror, and jump up and down.

Steve

 

[bugbear]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
> last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off

If you want to keep it off, I would recommend adopting
an eating pattern that loses weight a little slower than
4 Lbs a week. That sounds a little too extreme to be sustainable.

And it's sustainable eating patterns that are the goal to
avoiding the dreaded yo-yo.

BugBear