OT: The Passion of the Christ



Peter Aitken wrote:

> Truth? Here's a question for you, since you believe the
> bible contains truth. Where did Cain and Abel's wives
> come from?

When they left Eden, didn't they walk into a fully populated
city? It's a silly story. I don't know where people came up
with this stuff.

nancy
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Paula and Cindy, Please post your recipes for hot cross
> buns. I think they are fabulous but can't find 'just the
> right recipe' for them.
>
> I prefer the cut cross on top to the icing.

This is adapted from "The Fannie Farmer Baking Book", by
Marian Cunningham.

Hot Cross Buns 1 package dry yeast
1/4 cup warm water
2/4 cup milk, warmed
3/3 cup sugar 1 1/2 teaspoons salt 4 tablespoons butter,
softened 2 eggs about 3 1/4 cups flour 1 teaspoon cinnamon
4/2 teaspoon nutmeg
5/4 teaspoon allspice
6/2 cup dried cranberries

Mix yeast into warm water and let stand. Combine milk,
sugar, salt butter, and eggs in a large bowl; beat well. Add
yeast mixture. Beat in 1 1/2 cups flour and spices. Cover
and let rise for about an hour. Add remaining flour, then
knead until smooth and elastic. Knead in the dried
cranberries in the last minute or so. Place dough into a
greased bowl; cover and let rise until doubled. Punch dough
down; turn onto lightly floured board. Roll into a rectangle
about 14" x 10" and 1/2" thick. Cut out buns with a 2 1/2 to
3-inch round cutter; place buns about 1" apart on greased
baking sheets. Reroll scraps and continue cutting until
you've used up the dough. Let rise uncovered until double.
Just before baking, use floured scissors to snip a cross in
the top of each bun, cutting about 1/2" deep. Bake at 375°
about 15 minutes until the tops are golden brown. Cool on
wire rack. Makes about 20 buns.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Donna Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
> >In article <raneemdonot-
> >[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> I do. I don't know if it is a thing of the past for
> >> most people or not. I believe that most Orthodox
> >> Christians still maintain the Good Friday fast as
> >> well. Normally, I fast on Ash Wednesday as well, but
> >> didn't this year because of being pregnant. We try,
> >> as a family, to keep the dietary restrictions of
> >> Lent as a physical discipline to fit us for
> >> spiritual discipline, not really because you have to
> >> do it to make God happy.
> >
> >My Mom is an Orthodox Christian. Their fasting schedule
> >is *much* stricter than the Catholics ever were.
> >
> >For example, they fast all during advent, all during
> >lent, and all through the year on Wednesdays and Fridays.
> >They also fast prior to a variety of different holidays,
> >which I've had difficulty keeping tract of.
> >
> >Fasting for them, by the way, means no meat, cheese,
> >dairy, or anything made from or with any of these
> >products.
> >
> Actually, what you describe is "abstaining". Fasting is
> something altogether different.
>
> --
> Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter, send
> email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
>
>

Very true... The longest I ever fasted was 2 weeks, but I
worked my way up to it.

There are some fascinating books on the health benefits
of fasting.

Wish I still had the will power to do that. :p

K.

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Peter Aitken wrote:

> Truth? Here's a question for you, since you believe the
> bible contains truth. Where did Cain and Abel's wives
> come from?

Peter. I don't mean to be rude but this thread wasn't
intended for you. If you don't mind - please refrain from
further posts. Thank you.

~john
 
Ranee Mueller wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Donna Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>My Mom is an Orthodox Christian. Their fasting schedule is
>>*much* stricter than the Catholics ever were.
>>
>>For example, they fast all during advent, all during lent,
>>and all through the year on Wednesdays and Fridays. They
>>also fast prior to a variety of different holidays, which
>>I've had difficulty keeping tract of.
>>
>>Fasting for them, by the way, means no meat, cheese,
>>dairy, or anything made from or with any of these
>>products.
>
>
> Right, but that is abstention. I mean a full fast on
> Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. We don't do a meat or
> dairy abstention during Lent, but we do a meat
> abstention on Fridays. We don't eat desserts, candies,
> pastries or deep fried stuff, we eat low sugar, low
> fat, low cheese, etc for the duration of Lent. Simple
> and hearty being the motto.
>
> Regards, Ranee
>

If I was gonna give up something for Lent, and really have
it be meaningful, it should probably be coffee. I thought
about it this year but didn't do it. Maybe next year. I'm a
Baptist and Lent is not part of my tradition, but I think
it's a good tradition as long as it's a personal commitment
and not some kind of edict.

Best regards, Bob
 
"jmcquown" <[email protected]> deliciously posted in
news:[email protected]:

> Stark Raven wrote:
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>, jmcquown
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not knocking anyone's religion but you all do realize
>>> this is just a MOVIE, right? And the Bible is a book.
>>> Open to interpretation much as a painting is open to
>>> appreciation by the viewer.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>
>> Hmmmmm. You might as well be lighting the fuse on a
>> stick of dynamite, but I guess being a southeraner, you
>> know that.
>
> You're talking to a Southerner who once opened the door to
> find a preacher and his son standing there telling me all
> about their Baptist church. I said, "No thanks, I already
> have a church." Oh? Which one? They started naming off
> Baptist churches. I said, "I'm NOT Baptist." You'd have
> thought I'd declared I was the devil incarnate... they
> backed away, stammering and mumbling to themselves. It was
> hilarious!
>
> Jill

Do religious organizations still do the door to door thing?
They can't get through the gates here because no one in the
subdivision will let them in. Someone did sneak in some boy
scouts last spring. I was ******.

Michael

--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968
 
"jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Stark Raven wrote:
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>, jmcquown
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not knocking anyone's religion but you all do realize
> >> this is just a MOVIE, right? And the Bible is a book.
> >> Open to interpretation much as a painting is open to
> >> appreciation by the viewer.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >
> > Hmmmmm. You might as well be lighting the fuse on a
> > stick of dynamite, but I guess being a southeraner, you
> > know that.
>
> You're talking to a Southerner who once opened the door to
> find a preacher and his son standing there telling me all
> about their Baptist church. I said, "No thanks, I already
> have a church." Oh? Which one? They started naming off
> Baptist churches. I said, "I'm NOT Baptist." You'd have
thought
> I'd declared I was the devil incarnate... they backed
> away, stammering and mumbling to themselves. It was
> hilarious!
>
> Jill
>
>

I had a similar experience. It's unfortunate that to many
Americans, "freedom of religion" means you get to choose
between baptist, methodist, and a couple of other mainstream
protestant denominations.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the **** from my email address before using.
 
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:58:02 -0600, "jmcquown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You're talking to a Southerner who once opened the door to
>find a preacher and his son standing there telling me all
>about their Baptist church. I said, "No thanks, I already
>have a church." Oh? Which one? They started naming off
>Baptist churches. I said, "I'm NOT Baptist." You'd have
>thought I'd declared I was the devil incarnate... they
>backed away, stammering and mumbling to themselves. It was
>hilarious!
>
>Jill
>
You should see what they do when I explain what my wife's
mezuzah is. Pan Ohco
 
In article <raneemdonot-
[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Donna Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My Mom is an Orthodox Christian. Their fasting schedule
> > is *much* stricter than the Catholics ever were.
> >
> > For example, they fast all during advent, all during
> > lent, and all through the year on Wednesdays and
> > Fridays. They also fast prior to a variety of different
> > holidays, which I've had difficulty keeping tract of.
> >
> > Fasting for them, by the way, means no meat, cheese,
> > dairy, or anything made from or with any of these
> > products.
>
> Right, but that is abstention. I mean a full fast on
> Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. We don't do a meat or
> dairy abstention during Lent, but we do a meat
> abstention on Fridays. We don't eat desserts, candies,
> pastries or deep fried stuff, we eat low sugar, low
> fat, low cheese, etc for the duration of Lent. Simple
> and hearty being the motto.
>
> Regards, Ranee
>
>
Oops! You're right! Sorry I confused the two terms. (Can you
tell I'm a lapsed Catholic?)
--
Donna A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist
hopes they are.
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Darryl L. Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd *love* to see a movie version of either Barney Miller
>> or Fish. :)
>
> Who knows, it might happen. I wonder when those two shows
> will come out on DVD. It seems as if lots of old shows are
> being released on
> DVD. For example, a friend of mine recently bought the
> Green Acres series on DVD.

A friend of mine has been watching 'Dark Shadows' on DVD, 10
episodes per at nearly $50 each. YOWSA. Hey, I loved the
show, but that's a tad steep!

Jill
 
In article <[email protected]>, jmcquown
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Stark Raven wrote:
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>, jmcquown
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not knocking anyone's religion but you all do realize
> >> this is just a MOVIE, right? And the Bible is a book.
> >> Open to interpretation much as a painting is open to
> >> appreciation by the viewer.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >
> > Hmmmmm. You might as well be lighting the fuse on a
> > stick of dynamite, but I guess being a southeraner, you
> > know that.
>
> You're talking to a Southerner who once opened the door to
> find a preacher and his son standing there telling me all
> about their Baptist church. I said, "No thanks, I already
> have a church." Oh? Which one? They started naming off
> Baptist churches. I said, "I'm NOT Baptist." You'd have
> thought I'd declared I was the devil incarnate... they
> backed away, stammering and mumbling to themselves. It was
> hilarious!
>
> Jill
>

Oh. You're a southerner and NOT a southeraner! There's a big
difference.
 
"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Look at Gen 5, especially verse 4:
>
> (NKJV) Genesis 5:1-5 "This is the book of the genealogy of
> Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the
> likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, and
> blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were
> created. 3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years,
> and begot [a son] in his own likeness, after his image,
> and named him Seth. 4 After he begot Seth, the days of
> Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and
> daughters. 5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine
> hundred and thirty years; and he died."

Oh, I see. Genesis endorses incest.

And this whole silly thing relates to cooking HOW, exactly?

Bob M.
 
"Cindy Fuller" <, "Virginia Tadrzynski" and Paula ... Please
post your recipes for hot cross buns. I think they
: > are fabulous but can't find 'just the right recipe'
: > for them.
: >
: > I prefer the cut cross on top to the icing.
:
: This is adapted from "The Fannie Farmer Baking Book", by
: Marian Cunningham.
:
: Hot Cross Buns 1 package dry yeast
: 1/4 cup warm water
: 3/4 cup milk, warmed
: 1/3 cup sugar 1 1/2 teaspoons salt 4 tablespoons butter,
: softened 2 eggs about 3 1/4 cups flour 1 teaspoon
: cinnamon
: 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
: 1/4 teaspoon allspice
: 1/2 cup dried cranberries
:
: Mix yeast into warm water and let stand. Combine
: milk, sugar,
salt
: butter, and eggs in a large bowl; beat well. Add yeast
mixture. Beat
: in 1 1/2 cups flour and spices. Cover and let rise
: for about
an hour.
: Add remaining flour, then knead until smooth and elastic.
Knead in the
: dried cranberries in the last minute or so. Place
: dough into a
greased
: bowl; cover and let rise until doubled. Punch dough
: down; turn
onto
: lightly floured board. Roll into a rectangle about
: 14" x 10"
and 1/2"
: thick. Cut out buns with a 2 1/2 to 3-inch round
: cutter; place
buns
: about 1" apart on greased baking sheets. Reroll scraps and
continue
: cutting until you've used up the dough. Let rise uncovered
until
: double. Just before baking, use floured scissors to snip a
cross in the
: top of each bun, cutting about 1/2" deep. Bake at
: 375° about
15 minutes
: until the tops are golden brown. Cool on wire rack. Makes
about 20
: buns.
:
: Cindy
==============

Cindy ( wow is that hard for me to type!), thanks for
posting your recipe. I too, will be giving it a try being as
DH despises the typical candied fruit pieces.

--
Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply
 
Levelwave=A9 wrote:

> Peter Aitken wrote:
>=20
>> Truth? Here's a question for you, since you believe the
>> bible contains=

>> truth. Where did Cain and Abel's wives come from?
>=20
> Peter. I don't mean to be rude but this thread wasn't
> intended for you.=
=20
> If you don't mind - please refrain from further posts.
> Thank you.

And in another Levelwave=A9 post: Bob Myers wrote:

> Oh, I see. Genesis endorses incest.
>
> And this whole silly thing relates to cooking HOW,
> exactly?

Hello Bob. You sound like an intelligent person. Would you
like me to=20 help you with the meaning of "OT" or should I
just assume that you, as=20 an intelligent person, already
know the definition?
----------------

Uh, John. This is a newsgroup where people post things and
others=20 reply as they see fit. Like this. If you want to
deal in personal=20 messages, the best way is to use email.

Or should I just assume that you, as an intelligent person,
already=20 know the conditions?

Pastorio
 
Nancy Young wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>
>> Truth? Here's a question for you, since you believe the
>> bible contains truth. Where did Cain and Abel's wives
>> come from?
>
> When they left Eden, didn't they walk into a fully
> populated city? It's a silly story. I don't know where
> people came up with this stuff.
>
> nancy

Anyone remember Lilith? (smile)

Jill
 
Katra wrote:

> There are some fascinating books on the health benefits of
> fasting.

If you do survey of the literature, you'll find that true
fasting, meaning eating no food and taking water only for
one to several days, has almost no health effect for the
healthy adult, meaning one who is on no medications and
has no blood sugar troubles like diabetes and has no
eating disorders such as anorexia and isn't underweight or
getting too few calories to start with such a folks who
are slowly starving.

Fasts are required by some religious disciplines and
presumably have spititual benefits. The folks who feel a
need to argue with religious principles on scientific
grounds started saying that fasting was harmful to health.
This simply isn't true. Then the pendulum swung is the other
direction and you got folks saying that fasting is
beneficial to health. This simply isn't true either. A
healthy adult is fully capable of going for a while without
eating and suffering nothing worse than hunger. That doesn't
mean fasting will do anything wonderful for the body. Humans
don't need periods of rest for their digestive systems more
than we get with a good night's sleep.

I'll leave the spiritual questions about fasting alone
except to say that I like it personally. A single day
fasting and praying does me a world of good.

--Lia
 
"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> If I was gonna give up something for Lent, and really have
> it be meaningful, it should probably be coffee. I thought
> about it this year
but
> didn't do it. Maybe next year. I'm a Baptist and Lent is
> not part of my tradition, but I think it's a good
> tradition as long as it's a personal commitment and not
> some kind of edict.
>

What strikes me as truly funny now is looking back to the
'fish on friday' days of my life and remembering that we
(and most others that I knew at the time) didn't eat fish on
friday so much as we ate some fish product. Think fish
sticks, tuna casserole, etc. Never a nice pan seared salmon
filet or fresh trout or anything like that. I can't pass the
freezer case in my grocery without cracking up when I see
the packages of Mrs Paul's Manta Ray.

Jack Catholiquor
 
Dog3 wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> deliciously posted in

> > You're talking to a Southerner who once opened the door
> > to find a preacher and his son standing there telling me
> > all about their Baptist church. I said, "No thanks, I
> > already have a church." Oh? Which one? They started
> > naming off Baptist churches. I said, "I'm NOT Baptist."
> > You'd have thought I'd declared I was the devil
> > incarnate... they backed away, stammering and mumbling
> > to themselves. It was hilarious!

> Do religious organizations still do the door to door
> thing? They can't get through the gates here because no
> one in the subdivision will let them in. Someone did sneak
> in some boy scouts last spring. I was ******.

They sure do. I have had plenty of Jehovah's Witnesses and
even a couple of fresh faced Morman girls. Extremely
annoying to me.

nancy
 
Peter Aitken wrote:

> I had a similar experience. It's unfortunate that to many
> Americans, "freedom of religion" means you get to choose
> between baptist, methodist, and a couple of other
> mainstream protestant denominations.

Even worse, to alot of Americans (including such people as
Sen. Leibowitz) freedom of religion does not include freedom
*from* religion.

--
Darryl L. Pierce <[email protected]> Visit the Infobahn
Offramp - <http://mypage.org/mcpierce> "What do you care
what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"
 
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:32:08 -0600, Katra
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> There are some fascinating books on the health benefits
> of fasting.
>

Like "visions"?

> Wish I still had the will power to do that. :p
>

Wooo. Well, you'd save a lot of money on food. Real health
benefits are doubtful...

Practice safe eating - always use condiments
 
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