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RonSonic
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On 20 Feb 2006 19:16:18 -0800, "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>RonSonic (who?) anonymously snipes:
>>
>> Do you really think, knowing, as I'm sure you do, the distribution patterns of
>> human intelligence that you are really smarter than the entire peloton, all of
>> their mechanics, DSs, sponsors and reps.
>
>If one believes the WAIS to be an accurate indicator, then the answer
>is yes. In addition, most all of the aforementioned lack an education
>in engineering mechanics, and as Jobst Brandt is fond of pointing out;
>the level of engineering at many cycling related manufacturers is not
>what it could be.
Tom, I'm sure you are smarter than the average bear, but I really doubt you know
more about tires than the guys who make them and sponsor the teams riding them.
I'm pretty sure I've got a handle on the thinking on the business end, and if
the sewups weren't faster they would never tolerate this rebranded sewup from a
small maker **** that is the present norm. You can talk all you want about jock
superstition, it is real, but the sponsor writes the checks and gets to say what
they ride. Yes, there are exceptions for a team leader and so on. But those are
exceptions, the tire situation is pervasive.
If you made a clincher tire that you _KNOW_ is faster and better than a sewup
you would never tolerate a rider's insistence on riding another brand. OTOH, if
you know he's got a better chance of winning by riding some tire you don't make,
but with your name on the bike, that's what you'll accept. It seems the latter
is the status quo.
>> I don't think the riders give two ***** whether it's a clincher or a sew-up. I
>> am certain that they know which they like when they jump on the bike and ride.
>
>So it is all psychological and not based on objective testing?
You can't feel the difference between a **** tire and a good one?
>> One hundred years experience times millions of riders has given its answer.
>
>Yep, most riders choose clinchers, except those who believe the myth
>and lore of tubular superiority (passed down through the racing clubs,
>who sneer at the unwashed Freds riding clinchers).
Riders who've experienced sewups prefer them on the road, though they may prefer
the logistics of the clincher.
Ron
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>RonSonic (who?) anonymously snipes:
>>
>> Do you really think, knowing, as I'm sure you do, the distribution patterns of
>> human intelligence that you are really smarter than the entire peloton, all of
>> their mechanics, DSs, sponsors and reps.
>
>If one believes the WAIS to be an accurate indicator, then the answer
>is yes. In addition, most all of the aforementioned lack an education
>in engineering mechanics, and as Jobst Brandt is fond of pointing out;
>the level of engineering at many cycling related manufacturers is not
>what it could be.
Tom, I'm sure you are smarter than the average bear, but I really doubt you know
more about tires than the guys who make them and sponsor the teams riding them.
I'm pretty sure I've got a handle on the thinking on the business end, and if
the sewups weren't faster they would never tolerate this rebranded sewup from a
small maker **** that is the present norm. You can talk all you want about jock
superstition, it is real, but the sponsor writes the checks and gets to say what
they ride. Yes, there are exceptions for a team leader and so on. But those are
exceptions, the tire situation is pervasive.
If you made a clincher tire that you _KNOW_ is faster and better than a sewup
you would never tolerate a rider's insistence on riding another brand. OTOH, if
you know he's got a better chance of winning by riding some tire you don't make,
but with your name on the bike, that's what you'll accept. It seems the latter
is the status quo.
>> I don't think the riders give two ***** whether it's a clincher or a sew-up. I
>> am certain that they know which they like when they jump on the bike and ride.
>
>So it is all psychological and not based on objective testing?
You can't feel the difference between a **** tire and a good one?
>> One hundred years experience times millions of riders has given its answer.
>
>Yep, most riders choose clinchers, except those who believe the myth
>and lore of tubular superiority (passed down through the racing clubs,
>who sneer at the unwashed Freds riding clinchers).
Riders who've experienced sewups prefer them on the road, though they may prefer
the logistics of the clincher.
Ron