Re: "Mountain biking is no more damaging than other forms of recreation, including hiking."

[Edward Dolan]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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[...]
> P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
> one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
> heat.

Here is Jimbo trying to be both nasty and witty. However, anyone but me
notice how he continually falls flat in both of those aspects. I think it is
because he is so in earnest all the time - like a teenager kid. Poor Jimbo
does not ever have a clue about anything. A very sad case, indeed!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On 30 Jun 2006 22:15:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
[...]

Edward Dolan wrote:

>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time
>> >> on
>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
>> >> others
>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
>> >> newsgroup,
>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
>> >> nothing
>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must
>> >> get
>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong.
>> >> What is
>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
>> >> [...]
>> >
>> >Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ... ad
>> >nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up where
>> >you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after day,
>> >week after week, month after month. Get some new material already. -
>>
>> Provide your OWN material, you lazy bum.
>
> It would seem that you have taken a page out of Dolan's book ... by
> doing exactly what you are chastizing me for ... using his material, so
> who's the lazy bum? If I were Dolan, I would now have to accuse you of
> sponging. You really deserve one another. Where are you two going on
> your honeymoon? - Jim McNamara.

Mr. Vandeman posts a huge amount of original material, but like the smart
man he is, he does not waste a lot of words responding to the mostly idiots
who respond to him. Jimbo could learn a lot by following the posting style
and content of those who are his superiors instead of hissing like a snake
in the grass all the time.

If there is anyone more tiresome in all of Usenet than Jimbo, I have yet to
encounter such a one. All he has ever done from day one is whine about his
betters and drone on about he just might be their equal, Unfortunately for
him, the only way he can prove it is by posting lots of original material
like Mr. Vandeman does.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[SMS]

So to summarize the facts regarding trail impact:

1. No scientific studies show that mountain bikers cause more wear to
trails than other users.

2. Hooves and feet erode more than wheels.

3. No significant difference between hiking and biking trail wear.

4. Minimal change from repeated bicycle passage.

5. Hiking and bicycling trample vegetation at equal rates.

6. Hiking and biking cause roughly the same impact to large mammals,
though in some cases hikers have more impact.

7. Hikers have more impact on bald eagles.

8. Bicyclists, because they travel faster, and more quietly than hikers,
are more likely to encounter bears (no doubt this will make MV happy!).

Anyway, the bottom line is that no one has shown any evidence that
bicycle impact on trails and wildlife is worse than hiker impact, and in
fact, in some cases the hikers have more impact on wildlife, due to
there tendency to be noisier and to travel through an area less quickly.

 

[Edward Dolan]

"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So to summarize the facts regarding trail impact:
>
> 1. No scientific studies show that mountain bikers cause more wear to
> trails than other users.
>
> 2. Hooves and feet erode more than wheels.
>
> 3. No significant difference between hiking and biking trail wear.
>
> 4. Minimal change from repeated bicycle passage.
>
> 5. Hiking and bicycling trample vegetation at equal rates.
>
> 6. Hiking and biking cause roughly the same impact to large mammals,
> though in some cases hikers have more impact.
>
> 7. Hikers have more impact on bald eagles.
>
> 8. Bicyclists, because they travel faster, and more quietly than hikers,
> are more likely to encounter bears (no doubt this will make MV happy!).
>
> Anyway, the bottom line is that no one has shown any evidence that bicycle
> impact on trails and wildlife is worse than hiker impact, and in fact, in
> some cases the hikers have more impact on wildlife, due to there tendency
> to be noisier and to travel through an area less quickly.

I do not give a damn about impact on trails, but I do give a damn about
conflicts of interests. Mountain bikers are slobs and hikers are highly
evolved spiritual beings who do not even belong in the same universe as
mountain bikers. What the hell else do you ever need to know?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On 2 Jul 2006 22:06:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Edward Dolan wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time on
>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
>> >> others
>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
>> >> newsgroup,
>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
>> >> nothing
>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must get
>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong. What
>> >> is
>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
>> >> [...]
>> >
>> > Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ... ad
>> > nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up where
>> > you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after day,
>> > week after week, month after month. Get some ne material already. -
>> > Jim McNamara
>>
>> McNamara has now become that most pitiful and pathetic of all creatures - a
>> stalker and a leech. He is nothing but a blood sucking parasite. Try to find
>> a post of his where he is not sponging off the Great Ed Dolan. You will have
>> to go back a ways and then you will find him sponging off of Tom Sherman and
>> before him, Ed Gin. All he gains from these ventures is to pick up some of
>> my precious vocabulary. He knows his own vocabulary is irrelevant to
>> anything in this world.
>
>With almost every post you contradict yourself. You accuse me of
>writing with a dictionary in one hand and a thesaurus in another and
>condemn me for my vocabulary. Then, you accuse me of picking up "your
>precious vocabulary". Then, you accuse me of a having a vocabulary
>that is irrelevant to anything in this world. You don't even make
>sense. Truth be told, you are an an insignificant, infinitesimal speck
>of protoplasm irrelvant to anything in the cosmos accept your precious
>Mikey V.
>
>As concerns being a stalker, leech and a sponge ... things you have
>accused others of as well, be advised that you created your own
>monsters. Quit your whining, already. You have only yourself to blame
>for the "stalkers", "leeches" and "sponges" that you have fallen victim
>of. You intentionally go trolling for fights. When you encounter a
>tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself hopelessly embroiled
>in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in desperation, you move to
>disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit and dismiss your adversary
>... labeling him or her as a stalker. This thinly disguised ploy of
>your has failed countless times. If you really want to escape your
>self-inflicted dilemma, then turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return
>to the rock that you slithered out from under. - Jim McNamara
>
>> McNamara is a sad case and should be an object lesson to us all. Never let
>> jealousy guide you in your affairs. It is the one and only vice that gives
>> no pleasure.
>
>Jealousy??? You really are delusional . Knowing how I and others here
>feel about you (Excluding Mike V, of course), how could you possibly
>conclude that anyone would be jealous of you. Don't flatter youself.
>What and who you are precludes the possibly to ignite even so much as a
>flicker of envy. - Jim McNamara
>
>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>heat.

Yawn.

>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:40:30 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>So to summarize the facts regarding trail impact:
>
>1. No scientific studies show that mountain bikers cause more wear to
>trails than other users.
>
>2. Hooves and feet erode more than wheels.
>
>3. No significant difference between hiking and biking trail wear.
>
>4. Minimal change from repeated bicycle passage.
>
>5. Hiking and bicycling trample vegetation at equal rates.
>
>6. Hiking and biking cause roughly the same impact to large mammals,
>though in some cases hikers have more impact.
>
>7. Hikers have more impact on bald eagles.
>
>8. Bicyclists, because they travel faster, and more quietly than hikers,
>are more likely to encounter bears (no doubt this will make MV happy!).
>
>Anyway, the bottom line is that no one has shown any evidence that
>bicycle impact on trails and wildlife is worse than hiker impact, and in
>fact, in some cases the hikers have more impact on wildlife, due to
>there tendency to be noisier and to travel through an area less quickly.

Repeating those lies won't make them true. I refuted them all long
ago: http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/scb7. Of course, you already knew
that.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2 Jul 2006 22:06:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> >
>>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time
>>> >> on
>>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
>>> >> others
>>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
>>> >> newsgroup,
>>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
>>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must
>>> >> get
>>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong.
>>> >> What
>>> >> is
>>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
>>> >> [...]
>>> >
>>> > Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ...
>>> > ad
>>> > nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up
>>> > where
>>> > you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after
>>> > day,
>>> > week after week, month after month. Get some ne material already. -
>>> > Jim McNamara
>>>
>>> McNamara has now become that most pitiful and pathetic of all
>>> creatures - a
>>> stalker and a leech. He is nothing but a blood sucking parasite. Try to
>>> find
>>> a post of his where he is not sponging off the Great Ed Dolan. You will
>>> have
>>> to go back a ways and then you will find him sponging off of Tom Sherman
>>> and
>>> before him, Ed Gin. All he gains from these ventures is to pick up some
>>> of
>>> my precious vocabulary. He knows his own vocabulary is irrelevant to
>>> anything in this world.
>>
>>With almost every post you contradict yourself. You accuse me of
>>writing with a dictionary in one hand and a thesaurus in another and
>>condemn me for my vocabulary. Then, you accuse me of picking up "your
>>precious vocabulary". Then, you accuse me of a having a vocabulary
>>that is irrelevant to anything in this world. You don't even make
>>sense. Truth be told, you are an an insignificant, infinitesimal speck
>>of protoplasm irrelvant to anything in the cosmos accept your precious
>>Mikey V.
>>
>>As concerns being a stalker, leech and a sponge ... things you have
>>accused others of as well, be advised that you created your own
>>monsters. Quit your whining, already. You have only yourself to blame
>>for the "stalkers", "leeches" and "sponges" that you have fallen victim
>>of. You intentionally go trolling for fights. When you encounter a
>>tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself hopelessly embroiled
>>in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in desperation, you move to
>>disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit and dismiss your adversary
>>... labeling him or her as a stalker. This thinly disguised ploy of
>>your has failed countless times. If you really want to escape your
>>self-inflicted dilemma, then turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return
>>to the rock that you slithered out from under. - Jim McNamara
>>
>>> McNamara is a sad case and should be an object lesson to us all. Never
>>> let
>>> jealousy guide you in your affairs. It is the one and only vice that
>>> gives
>>> no pleasure.
>>
>>Jealousy??? You really are delusional . Knowing how I and others here
>>feel about you (Excluding Mike V, of course), how could you possibly
>>conclude that anyone would be jealous of you. Don't flatter youself.
>>What and who you are precludes the possibly to ignite even so much as a
>>flicker of envy. - Jim McNamara
>>
>>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>>heat.
>
> Yawn.

Mike, this is the kind of **** that goes on all the time on ARBR. I have
gotten so used to it that it is like water off a duck's back. Truth to tell,
I do not even notice it any more, but I respond to the likes of Jimbo so he
won't feel any worse than he already does. I am just too soft hearted I
know!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[[email protected]]

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 2 Jul 2006 22:06:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>> >
> >>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
> >>> >> others
> >>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
> >>> >> newsgroup,
> >>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
> >>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
> >>> >> nothing
> >>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must
> >>> >> get
> >>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong.
> >>> >> What
> >>> >> is
> >>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
> >>> >> [...]
> >>> >
> >>> > Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ...
> >>> > ad
> >>> > nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up
> >>> > where
> >>> > you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after
> >>> > day,
> >>> > week after week, month after month. Get some ne material already. -
> >>> > Jim McNamara
> >>>
> >>> McNamara has now become that most pitiful and pathetic of all
> >>> creatures - a
> >>> stalker and a leech. He is nothing but a blood sucking parasite. Try to
> >>> find
> >>> a post of his where he is not sponging off the Great Ed Dolan. You will
> >>> have
> >>> to go back a ways and then you will find him sponging off of Tom Sherman
> >>> and
> >>> before him, Ed Gin. All he gains from these ventures is to pick up some
> >>> of
> >>> my precious vocabulary. He knows his own vocabulary is irrelevant to
> >>> anything in this world.
> >>
> >>With almost every post you contradict yourself. You accuse me of
> >>writing with a dictionary in one hand and a thesaurus in another and
> >>condemn me for my vocabulary. Then, you accuse me of picking up "your
> >>precious vocabulary". Then, you accuse me of a having a vocabulary
> >>that is irrelevant to anything in this world. You don't even make
> >>sense. Truth be told, you are an an insignificant, infinitesimal speck
> >>of protoplasm irrelvant to anything in the cosmos accept your precious
> >>Mikey V.
> >>
> >>As concerns being a stalker, leech and a sponge ... things you have
> >>accused others of as well, be advised that you created your own
> >>monsters. Quit your whining, already. You have only yourself to blame
> >>for the "stalkers", "leeches" and "sponges" that you have fallen victim
> >>of. You intentionally go trolling for fights. When you encounter a
> >>tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself hopelessly embroiled
> >>in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in desperation, you move to
> >>disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit and dismiss your adversary
> >>... labeling him or her as a stalker. This thinly disguised ploy of
> >>your has failed countless times. If you really want to escape your
> >>self-inflicted dilemma, then turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return
> >>to the rock that you slithered out from under. - Jim McNamara
> >>
> >>> McNamara is a sad case and should be an object lesson to us all. Never
> >>> let
> >>> jealousy guide you in your affairs. It is the one and only vice that
> >>> gives
> >>> no pleasure.
> >>
> >>Jealousy??? You really are delusional . Knowing how I and others here
> >>feel about you (Excluding Mike V, of course), how could you possibly
> >>conclude that anyone would be jealous of you. Don't flatter youself.
> >>What and who you are precludes the possibly to ignite even so much as a
> >>flicker of envy. - Jim McNamara
> >>
> >>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
> >>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
> >>heat.
> >
> > Yawn.

Now, dont' hrt yourself with such a snappy comeback.

> Mike, this is the kind of **** that goes on all the time on ARBR. I have
> gotten so used to it that it is like water off a duck's back. Truth to tell,
> I do not even notice it any more, but I respond to the likes of Jimbo so he
> won't feel any worse than he already does. I am just too soft hearted I
> know!

Soft "hearted"? I think you misspelled "headed". - Jim McNamara

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Chris Foster]

"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Chris Foster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 27 Jun 2006 12:00:49 GMT, Chris Foster
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some cross posting will involve a half dozen newsgroups. This is
>>>>>>> almost always wrong. However, there can be some cross posting to
>>>>>>> one or two other newsgroups from time to time. For instance,
>>>>>>> these threads on mountain biking on hiking trails seem to belong
>>>>>>> to AMB and RBS, but not to ARBR and RBM. What is there about
>>>>>>> this that you do not understand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a hypocrite, you and Vandy are the ones cross posting.
>>>>>> Then you tell everyone to not cross post. I understand very
>>>>>> clearly. I also understand very clearly that you are a
>>>>>> hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you don't understand is an explanation. How the hell did you
>>>>> ever get through Graduate School? See the above message and read
>>>>> it at least ten times or however many it takes for it to sink into
>>>>> that addled brain of yours.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who did the cross posting fool ??? It was either you or Vandy.
>>>>What dont you undestand about that???
>>>>
>>>>It wasnt Curtiss or I, What dont you undestand about that???
>>>>
>>>>Since you created the infraction,
>>>
>>> What is the "infraction"?
>>
>> cross posting
>
> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot.

Name calling duly noted.



It is done all the time
> on Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
> others from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating
> that newsgroup, but it was not to be because these other newsgroups
> are very narrowly focused on just one subject - and my home group
> (ARBR) is made up of nothing but Freds who do not like controversy and
> invective. And so we must get these threads off of ARBR and RBM where
> they clearly do not belong. What is there about this that you do not
> understand? [...]


Vandy is the one doing the cross posting. If you want to bich about
'containing' the thread, you need to take it up with your idol, Vandy
>
>


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[Chris Foster]

"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> [...]
>> P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning
>> over one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet
>> queens in heat.
>
> Here is Jimbo trying to be both nasty and witty.

He succeeded, that was hilarious! Thanks Jimmy


However, anyone but
> me notice how he continually falls flat in both of those aspects. I
> think it is because he is so in earnest all the time - like a teenager
> kid. Poor Jimbo does not ever have a clue about anything. A very sad
> case, indeed!


It is you sir, Mr Edward Dolan who doesn't have a clue.

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[Chris Foster]

"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news[email protected]:

>
> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> So to summarize the facts regarding trail impact:
>>
>> 1. No scientific studies show that mountain bikers cause more wear to
>> trails than other users.
>>
>> 2. Hooves and feet erode more than wheels.
>>
>> 3. No significant difference between hiking and biking trail wear.
>>
>> 4. Minimal change from repeated bicycle passage.
>>
>> 5. Hiking and bicycling trample vegetation at equal rates.
>>
>> 6. Hiking and biking cause roughly the same impact to large mammals,
>> though in some cases hikers have more impact.
>>
>> 7. Hikers have more impact on bald eagles.
>>
>> 8. Bicyclists, because they travel faster, and more quietly than
>> hikers, are more likely to encounter bears (no doubt this will make
>> MV happy!).
>>
>> Anyway, the bottom line is that no one has shown any evidence that
>> bicycle impact on trails and wildlife is worse than hiker impact, and
>> in fact, in some cases the hikers have more impact on wildlife, due
>> to there tendency to be noisier and to travel through an area less
>> quickly.
>
> I do not give a damn about impact on trails, but I do give a damn
> about conflicts of interests. Mountain bikers are slobs and hikers are
> highly evolved spiritual beings who do not even belong in the same
> universe as mountain bikers. What the hell else do you ever need to
> know?
>

I am a hiker and a back packer Eddy, what to change you mind again, and
again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.


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[Chris Foster]

>>
>>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>>heat.
>
> Yawn.
>


Once again, Vandy is opening wide to receive Ed. Hope you enjoy it Ed.

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[Chris Foster]

Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 00:25:46 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>[...]
>>> I can't imagine where you get the patience to actually listen to
>>> these dregs of humanity. Honestly, you have the patience of a SAINT!
>>> You must really BE a saint! I'm going to petition the Pope to have
>>> you canonized ASAP....
>>
>>I am shortly going to leave these mountain bikers to you and your
>>one-liners as that is all they deserve. I like to wax eloquent but
>>that is impossible to do with the likes of Curtiss, Foster et al.

Yes. There is a god!


>
> Yes, your eloquence is wasted on everyone but me, and you have given
> me a lofty example to aim for. I think that a lecture tour, after the
> fashion of Ralph Waldo Emerson, Thoreau, Walt Whitman, and Mark Twain
> is more appropriate for a genius like you. I will look for your work
> in the New Yorker and other intellectual venues needing a breath of
> fresh air from a master of the apt phrase....
>


Are you two done sucking each other off?


> There is never an ounce of
>>inspiration to any of their messages. They are so deadly dull and
>>vacuous that I feel I am getting as dumb as they are by just paying
>>attention to them. I will go back to my group, ARBR, where I will
>>continue to be a big frog in a little pond. I will look in on RBS, but
>>only occasionally.
>>
>>All newsgroups seem the same to me, full of the high school crowd who
>>never even got a high school education. They seem to be permanently
>>stuck at the level of the 8th grade. I strongly suspect most education
>>is wasted beyond the 8th grade. That seemed to be the level of
>>education that I experienced too when I was in the Navy as an enlisted
>>man. Even the junior officers seemed to have no culture at all.
>>

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[Chris Foster]

Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 30 Jun 2006 13:17:01 GMT, Chris Foster
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> "S Curtiss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:31Uog.26048$FR1.17635@dukeread05...
>>>>
>>>> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> I am showing all your mountain biker buddies that you are even a
>>>>>>> greater asshole than they suspected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keyword "buddies"... They already don't like you so and I am
>>>>>> inconsequential to them either way. You have about as much
>>>>>> influence on their opinion of me as you would changing the orbit
of
>>>>>> the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>> You would be surprised at how fickle people can be. I assure you
>>>>> there are probably very many mountain bikers on AMB who do not like
>>>>> you at all.
>>>> ...and, if even true, that effects me how....? Besides... How many
>>>> are still riding bikes on trails because Vandy's opinions have not
>>>> been accepted?
>>>>>I consider it a badge of honor if they do not like me. I am revered
>>>>>on my own group ARBR where I am not only a Great Saint but indeed a
>>>>>God!
>>>>>
>>>> ROFLMAO!!!! Damn... Now I need new pants...
>>>
>>> You also need something for your head as you are basically a ****
head
>>> which you prove every time you post.
>>>
>>
>>Name calling? Is that the best you can do? Simply pathetic.
>
> Thank you for your valuable insight. Can we quote you?


Yes. You need quote at least one source that is accurate.

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[SMS]

Chris Foster wrote:

>> I do not give a damn about impact on trails, but I do give a damn
>> about conflicts of interests. Mountain bikers are slobs and hikers are
>> highly evolved spiritual beings who do not even belong in the same
>> universe as mountain bikers. What the hell else do you ever need to
>> know?
>>
>
> I am a hiker and a back packer Eddy, what to change you mind again, and
> again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
> and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Hmm, after Dolan's response, it seems clear that he's simply been
trolling. I think that he posts just to make MV look bad.

 

[Edward Dolan]

"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chris Foster wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:

>>> I do not give a damn about impact on trails, but I do give a damn
>>> about conflicts of interests. Mountain bikers are slobs and hikers are
>>> highly evolved spiritual beings who do not even belong in the same
>>> universe as mountain bikers. What the hell else do you ever need to
>>> know?
>>
>> I am a hiker and a back packer Eddy, what to change you mind again, and
>> again and again and again and again and again and again and again and
>> again and again and again and again and again and again and again and
>> again.
>
> Hmm, after Dolan's response, it seems clear that he's simply been
> trolling. I think that he posts just to make MV look bad.

Foster is a total idiot. It does not matter to me what he does in real life.
On these newsgroups, he defends mountain biking on hiking trails. That is
all I ever have to know about him.

If anyone is trolling on these newsgroups, it is Curtiss and Foster. We all
know where the hell they stand on the issues. They never post anything new
or worthwhile whereas Mr. Vandeman does post such new and worthwhile
information all the time. SMS needs to step back and take a closer look at
who is doing what.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Chris Foster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>>>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>>>heat.
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>
>
> Once again, Vandy is opening wide to receive Ed. Hope you enjoy it Ed.

Are you sure you want to be indentified with Jimbo? He is a pathetic figure
who at least had the guts to do battle with Ed Gin, the most notorious
criminal vandal troll ever to infect ARBR. Everyone felt sorry for him
because Ed Gin was such a scoundrel, but Jimbo does not know how to relate
to anyone who is not a scoundrel. Hang in there Foster as I think you will
soon qualify yourself. Just keep telling Jimbo that he is great and you will
be OK, but the minute you tell him that he is not great, he will whine and
carry on like a school girl. You have been warned!

The one thing you both have going for you is that you are a couple of
half-wits who are incapable of a good rejoinder, something that Vandeman and
I do all the time on a regular basis. Jimbo and Foster, half-witted sexual
innuendoes - yea, that is as good as it is ever going to get with them!
Once a jarhead, always a jarhead apparently!

By the way, I now believe you are lying about your Ph.D. in electrical
engineering. There is just no way anyone as stupid as you could possibly
have any higher degrees. Even Curtiss is occasionally able to say something
that indicates he has some intelligence, but not you. I doubt you even have
a high school diploma?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Chris Foster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[...]
> Vandy is the one doing the cross posting. If you want to bich about
> 'containing' the thread, you need to take it up with your idol, Vandy

Mr. Vandeman has his groups that he regularly posts to. I added to those
groups, not him. I added ARBR and RBM because I wanted to enliven those
groups with new members, but instead all we got was this monomaniacal
posting on mountain biking on hiking trails The subject interests me
somewhat, but it does not interest any others on the new groups that I
added. Who knew that all the old groups were just into this single subject
with a few posters to it like you, Curtiss and Vandeman?

I am not a one note Johnny and I do not want one note Johnnies on ARBR and
RBM. I wish RBS could be better than it is, but it will need new members for
it to ever improve. I feel that most of what is posted on this subject
should only be on AMB. It surely does not need to be on RBS as much as it
is.

I believe I will shortly be leaving RBS for good as I require a larger
universe of members to tweak. You and Curtiss are not worth my time and
effort any longer. I will only look in on RBS to see what Mr. Vandeman is
posting. The one newsgroup I can always be found on is ARBR although I
occasionally go slumming on other groups.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 21:05:26 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 2 Jul 2006 22:06:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> >
>>>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time
>>>> >> on
>>>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
>>>> >> others
>>>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
>>>> >> newsgroup,
>>>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
>>>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
>>>> >> nothing
>>>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must
>>>> >> get
>>>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong.
>>>> >> What
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
>>>> >> [...]
>>>> >
>>>> > Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ...
>>>> > ad
>>>> > nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up
>>>> > where
>>>> > you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after
>>>> > day,
>>>> > week after week, month after month. Get some ne material already. -
>>>> > Jim McNamara
>>>>
>>>> McNamara has now become that most pitiful and pathetic of all
>>>> creatures - a
>>>> stalker and a leech. He is nothing but a blood sucking parasite. Try to
>>>> find
>>>> a post of his where he is not sponging off the Great Ed Dolan. You will
>>>> have
>>>> to go back a ways and then you will find him sponging off of Tom Sherman
>>>> and
>>>> before him, Ed Gin. All he gains from these ventures is to pick up some
>>>> of
>>>> my precious vocabulary. He knows his own vocabulary is irrelevant to
>>>> anything in this world.
>>>
>>>With almost every post you contradict yourself. You accuse me of
>>>writing with a dictionary in one hand and a thesaurus in another and
>>>condemn me for my vocabulary. Then, you accuse me of picking up "your
>>>precious vocabulary". Then, you accuse me of a having a vocabulary
>>>that is irrelevant to anything in this world. You don't even make
>>>sense. Truth be told, you are an an insignificant, infinitesimal speck
>>>of protoplasm irrelvant to anything in the cosmos accept your precious
>>>Mikey V.
>>>
>>>As concerns being a stalker, leech and a sponge ... things you have
>>>accused others of as well, be advised that you created your own
>>>monsters. Quit your whining, already. You have only yourself to blame
>>>for the "stalkers", "leeches" and "sponges" that you have fallen victim
>>>of. You intentionally go trolling for fights. When you encounter a
>>>tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself hopelessly embroiled
>>>in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in desperation, you move to
>>>disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit and dismiss your adversary
>>>... labeling him or her as a stalker. This thinly disguised ploy of
>>>your has failed countless times. If you really want to escape your
>>>self-inflicted dilemma, then turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return
>>>to the rock that you slithered out from under. - Jim McNamara
>>>
>>>> McNamara is a sad case and should be an object lesson to us all. Never
>>>> let
>>>> jealousy guide you in your affairs. It is the one and only vice that
>>>> gives
>>>> no pleasure.
>>>
>>>Jealousy??? You really are delusional . Knowing how I and others here
>>>feel about you (Excluding Mike V, of course), how could you possibly
>>>conclude that anyone would be jealous of you. Don't flatter youself.
>>>What and who you are precludes the possibly to ignite even so much as a
>>>flicker of envy. - Jim McNamara
>>>
>>>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>>>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>>>heat.
>>
>> Yawn.
>
>Mike, this is the kind of **** that goes on all the time on ARBR. I have
>gotten so used to it that it is like water off a duck's back. Truth to tell,
>I do not even notice it any more, but I respond to the likes of Jimbo so he
>won't feel any worse than he already does. I am just too soft hearted I
>know!

No, you are right. Mountain bikers can only be pitied. They are their
own worst enemies, although they think it's we two.

>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On 3 Jul 2006 22:36:18 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On 2 Jul 2006 22:06:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>> news:[email protected]...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >>> [...]
>> >>> >> Cross posting is not an infraction you idiot. It is done all the time
>> >>> >> on
>> >>> >> Usenet. But it should be done intelligently. I thought to drag some
>> >>> >> others
>> >>> >> from other newsgroups to ARBR with the idea of invigorating that
>> >>> >> newsgroup,
>> >>> >> but it was not to be because these other newsgroups are very narrowly
>> >>> >> focused on just one subject - and my home group (ARBR) is made up of
>> >>> >> nothing
>> >>> >> but Freds who do not like controversy and invective. And so we must
>> >>> >> get
>> >>> >> these threads off of ARBR and RBM where they clearly do not belong.
>> >>> >> What
>> >>> >> is
>> >>> >> there about this that you do not understand?
>> >>> >> [...]
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Do you ever tire of saying the same old **** over and over again ...
>> >>> > ad
>> >>> > nauseum? Your posts are like a soap opera. It's easy to pick up
>> >>> > where
>> >>> > you left off because its the same old regurgitated ****, day after
>> >>> > day,
>> >>> > week after week, month after month. Get some ne material already. -
>> >>> > Jim McNamara
>> >>>
>> >>> McNamara has now become that most pitiful and pathetic of all
>> >>> creatures - a
>> >>> stalker and a leech. He is nothing but a blood sucking parasite. Try to
>> >>> find
>> >>> a post of his where he is not sponging off the Great Ed Dolan. You will
>> >>> have
>> >>> to go back a ways and then you will find him sponging off of Tom Sherman
>> >>> and
>> >>> before him, Ed Gin. All he gains from these ventures is to pick up some
>> >>> of
>> >>> my precious vocabulary. He knows his own vocabulary is irrelevant to
>> >>> anything in this world.
>> >>
>> >>With almost every post you contradict yourself. You accuse me of
>> >>writing with a dictionary in one hand and a thesaurus in another and
>> >>condemn me for my vocabulary. Then, you accuse me of picking up "your
>> >>precious vocabulary". Then, you accuse me of a having a vocabulary
>> >>that is irrelevant to anything in this world. You don't even make
>> >>sense. Truth be told, you are an an insignificant, infinitesimal speck
>> >>of protoplasm irrelvant to anything in the cosmos accept your precious
>> >>Mikey V.
>> >>
>> >>As concerns being a stalker, leech and a sponge ... things you have
>> >>accused others of as well, be advised that you created your own
>> >>monsters. Quit your whining, already. You have only yourself to blame
>> >>for the "stalkers", "leeches" and "sponges" that you have fallen victim
>> >>of. You intentionally go trolling for fights. When you encounter a
>> >>tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself hopelessly embroiled
>> >>in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in desperation, you move to
>> >>disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit and dismiss your adversary
>> >>... labeling him or her as a stalker. This thinly disguised ploy of
>> >>your has failed countless times. If you really want to escape your
>> >>self-inflicted dilemma, then turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return
>> >>to the rock that you slithered out from under. - Jim McNamara
>> >>
>> >>> McNamara is a sad case and should be an object lesson to us all. Never
>> >>> let
>> >>> jealousy guide you in your affairs. It is the one and only vice that
>> >>> gives
>> >>> no pleasure.
>> >>
>> >>Jealousy??? You really are delusional . Knowing how I and others here
>> >>feel about you (Excluding Mike V, of course), how could you possibly
>> >>conclude that anyone would be jealous of you. Don't flatter youself.
>> >>What and who you are precludes the possibly to ignite even so much as a
>> >>flicker of envy. - Jim McNamara
>> >>
>> >>P.S. When are (you and Mike V.) going to stop shmelessly fawning over
>> >>one another in public. You two resemble a couple of closet queens in
>> >>heat.
>> >
>> > Yawn.
>
>Now, dont' hrt yourself with such a snappy comeback.
>
>> Mike, this is the kind of **** that goes on all the time on ARBR. I have
>> gotten so used to it that it is like water off a duck's back. Truth to tell,
>> I do not even notice it any more, but I respond to the likes of Jimbo so he
>> won't feel any worse than he already does. I am just too soft hearted I
>> know!
>
>Soft "hearted"? I think you misspelled "headed". - Jim McNamara

Yawn.

>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande