Who will be Exposed French Senate TdF 1998 Retrospective Testing July 18?

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  1. doctorSpoc

    doctorSpoc New Member

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    List of interesting Name who finished in top 3 and tested... few upper statesmen in there.. who will be embarrassed?
    Chirs Boardman
    Jens VOIGT
    Stuart O'GRADY
    Eric Zabel
    Robbie McEwen
    MarioChipollini
    Jacky DURAND
    Andrea TAFI
    José Vicente GARCIA ACOSTA
    Fernando ESCARTIN COTI
    Abraham Olano


    Total List of Top 3s:
    Chirs Boardman
    Abraham Olano
    Larent Jalabert
    Tom Steels
    Eric Zabel
    Robbie McEwen
    Jan Svorada
    Mario Chipollini
    Jens Hepner
    George Hincapie
    Jeroen BLIJLEVENS
    Nicola MINALI
    Christophe MENGIN
    ULLRICH Jan
    HAMILTON Tyler
    JULICH Bobby
    DURAND Jacky
    TAFI Andrea
    ACCHI Fabio
    VAN BON Leon
    VOIGT Jens
    LELLI Massimiliano
    MASSI Rodolfo
    PANTANI Marco
    BOOGERD Michael
    MEIER Roland
    SIMON François
    BARTHE Stéphane
    NARDELLO Daniele
    GARCIA ACOSTA José Vicente
    O'GRADY Stuart
    SERGIO RODRIGUES GOMES Orlando
    VAN BON Leon
    ESCARTIN COTI Fernando
    DEN BAKKER Maarten
    MAZZOLENI Eddy
    ZANINI Stefano
     
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  2. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    No one will be embarrassed on the 18th because the French Senate has decided to delay the release of the report until after the TdF is done.
     
  3. doctorSpoc

    doctorSpoc New Member

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    Wow... this place has gone downhill big time!

    Will the last person to leave cycling forums please turn off the light? ...thanks. [​IMG] zzzzzzz
     
  4. ilpirata

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    Well it is likely they will detect epo in most of the top riders of 1998. It will be interesting. I haven't read anywhere that a quantitative assesment can be done. Maybe someone else has knowledge? In other words, is it pass / fail or can concentration be determined?
    In any event McQuaid has hinted that Marco Pantani could be stripped of his title in the event that his retain contains synthetic epo. This is somewhat surprising, because of course it is only from one the one available sample and thus does not meet the criterion for disqualification of that time or today.
    What is more, Lance was never disqualified from his 1999 retrotest failure result, but rather from the summation of testimony coming out of the USADA investigation, and later his own admission. But let's see what they do. It will open up a discussion to the possible cancellation of TdF and other results for much more than the seven year cancellation we have already witnessed.
     
  5. swampy1970

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    Pity they can't retest the 81, 86, 87, 89, 91, 96 and 97 Tours whilst they're at it. No need to do 80 as Zoetemelke already admitted to blood doping ;)
     
  6. ambal

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    Boardman is suss. JV and SO obviously still riding and very popular among fans.
     
  7. classic1

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    Who didn't burn a hole in the beaker on that list? Zabel maybe. Admitted epo use but reckoned he only did it a few times because it made him sick. McEwen Boardman Simon But don't hold a gun to my head on it.
     
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    swampy1970 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone got any money of the French finding someway to include Lance? "Bwahahahahahahhaaaaa" - Dilbert.
     
  9. ambal

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    So many from that list have already been done, maybe as well lock the lot of them up.
     
  10. swampy1970

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    If you mean that this place isn't full of folks that talk like old women and sensationalize crap like this every time that someone posts then yeah, it's gone down hill. Care to regurgitate that "Tommy D blood spinner" rant you were so apt to mention in almost every post? OMG - someone In the late 80s and 90s took EPO or did old school RBC transfusions! Oh no! Say it isn't so!!!!!!!??!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!???!!!
     
  11. Busch

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    I heard the French got him Ragbrai, Iowa.
     
  12. ambal

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    O'Grady looks like he'll be the first casualty
     
  13. alienator

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    How do you figure that? Is that based on his announced retirement?
     
  14. classic1

    classic1 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, or the story goes that on stage 6 all the samples were positive for epo_O'grady was malliot jaune. In any case, I'm under no illusions about o'grady.
     
  15. limerickman

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    The list is to be published tomorrow?
     
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    Yup.
     
  17. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    List is out:

    Positive:
    Andrea Tafi, Erik Zabel, Bo Hamburger (twice), Laurent Jalabert, Marcos Serrano, Jens Heppner, Jeroen Blijlevens, Nicola Minali, Mario Cipollini, Fabio Sacchi, Eddy Mazzoleni, Jacky Durand, Abraham Olano, Laurent Desbiens, Marco Pantani, Manuel Beltran, Jan Ullrich (twice), Kevin Livingston (twice)

    Suspicious:
    Ermanno Brignoli, Alain Turicchia, Pascal Chanteur, Frederic Moncassin, Bobby Julich, Roland Meier, Giuseppe Calcaterra, Stefano Zanini, Eddy Mazzoleni, Stephane Barthe, Stuart O'Grady, Axel Merckx

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/french-senate-releases-positive-epo-cases-from-1998-tour-de-france

    Eddy! Who knew?!?! Heheh!

    And da French? Who knew?

    And Axel? Who didn't know?

    Super Mario? Uh...well...er...um...

    So. Pretty much everybody. In the most profeshionized, serialized, prolific, repetitive doping sport evar. I wonder what drugs Froomestrong was on this year? Give it 15 years and we may find out.

    And Jan's non-confession will now stand? A thrice impressed duck?
     
  18. limerickman

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    No sign of Rodolfo Massi's name?

    In the 1998 TDF, he was climbing like a cycling god until his team got pulled from the Tour.
     
  19. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Not all were tested as samples were missing, not viable or two samples not present.
     
  20. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    The 1998 samples, like the 1999 samples, were tested in 2004 for research purposes only.
    In respective cases only one sample would have been available for testing in 2004.

    The 1999 samples had only one sample available for testing because at the time (1999) the original sample was tested and deemed to be "clean" and was therefore discarded.
     
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