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I don't want to knock anyone's goals, but this strikes me as kinda strange. Sort of liking setting a goal to win our local hill climb TT on a mountain bike with knobby tires while the competition rides road bikes. Why handicap yourself? What does it prove? I can see a reluctance to dump a bunch of cash on a custom TT bike but what's wrong with clip on bars and maybe lowering your front end a bit? Aero bars are standard kit for TTs these days.Ade Merckx said:
Hey Dave to be fair the whole TT business doesn't appeal to me that much. The idea of turning up with the bars slightly lower than normal perhaps and seeing if I can get it done in under an hour as the Jazz man said I think would be kinda cooldaveryanwyoming said:
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Er no dude, it aint; coz i never said anything about winning
er...that I did a 40k time trial in under 60mins on a standard bike set up
Fair 'nuff, I still don't get it but I guess I don't need to, it's your goal, not mine. I really wasn't trying to criticize your goal, I was just wondering if there was some bigger reason since I've heard other folks say similar things.Ade Merckx said:... er...that I did a 40k time trial in under 60mins on a standard bike set up
Yeah you too Dave. I've really appreciated how you alongside Alex have picked up the Rap Daddy O training info baton and keep us informed with sharp, comprehensive and incisive postsdaveryanwyoming said:
No problem so far with typical weeks totalling 12 or more hours with skiing. I realized early on that I'd need more than 10 good hours per week to hit my CTL goals as I get between 50 and 70 TSS/hour from SST work including warmup, cooldown and rests between efforts.daveryanwyoming said:
No problem here. I'm good for an hour and a half tops on the trainer on my best days and I'm usually ready to get off after an hour but a couple of morning / evening doubles midweek have made it pretty easy to rack up the trainer time and TSS.
Here's where I'm slackin' It sure isn't much fun riding indoors in the aero bars, much less comfortable than the same position outdoors. I've only done a few of these and then haven't been able to stay in the aero bars as long as I'd like. Need to work on this before TTs roll around.
Too soon to say on this one. Really struggling to hit power numbers indoors that I hit regularly outdoors last summer. Didn't have this common problem last year at lower levels and have developed a lot more empathy for folks that struggle indoors. Not too worried as I'm getting good steady work, am way ahead of this time last winter and numbers are climbing. But I'm sure hoping I see a jump when I get back outdoors in the spring.
All but in the bag with CTL up around 85 right now and a very nice steady ramp of ~ 3 TSS/day/week. Barring illness or injury I should be well above 90 by March.
.... formatting looked weird but I figured I'd post for a bump if nothing else!daveryanwyoming said:Well 11 weeks into winter and halfway through the indoor training season if we have a typical spring. Thought I'd take a second to see how I'm doing against my training goals and bring this thread back up above the spam in the process.
No problem so far with typical weeks totalling 12 or more hours with skiing. I realized early on that I'd need more than 10 good hours per week to hit my CTL goals as I get between 50 and 70 TSS/hour from SST work including warmup, cooldown and rests between efforts.
sounds good. I've been a little under target at 8hrs/wk and 5d/week. I need to get that 6th day in there.
No problem here. I'm good for an hour and a half tops on the trainer on my best days and I'm usually ready to get off after an hour but a couple of morning / evening doubles midweek have made it pretty easy to rack up the trainer time and TSS.
doubles no!!! but I've worked up to a min. of 1.5hrs per session now and succeeded in turning off my brain to make the time pass more quickly.
Here's where I'm slackin' It sure isn't much fun riding indoors in the aero bars, much less comfortable than the same position outdoors. I've only done a few of these and then haven't been able to stay in the aero bars as long as I'd like. Need to work on this before TTs roll around.
hmmm ... i've tried this in the past and found it literally too much of a pain in the butt. however I'm being pretty good about doing my cooldown~10min in the aerobars whilst pretending I'm riding Powercranks
Too soon to say on this one. Really struggling to hit power numbers indoors that I hit regularly outdoors last summer. Didn't have this common problem last year at lower levels and have developed a lot more empathy for folks that struggle indoors. Not too worried as I'm getting good steady work, am way ahead of this time last winter and numbers are climbing. But I'm sure hoping I see a jump when I get back outdoors in the spring.
i sucked big time in early december after a work/illness break but the past two weeks I've noticed a nice jump. rode outdoors this weekend for the 1st time since November and felt very good. Hit NP PB for 3+hr ride on the mountain bike and that's a very good sign. With the lower gearing, generally i found I can't keep up the same power as the road bike (longish downhills, tailwinds etc).
All but in the bag with CTL up around 85 right now and a very nice steady ramp of ~ 3 TSS/day/week. Barring illness or injury I should be well above 90 by March.
CTL dropped from my personal 'sweet spot' of 110-120 in-season to 65
So how's everyone else doing on winter training goals? I'm pretty psyched to hit the halfway point and still be excited to train.
I feel much better now than early December. The power meter did not lie to me then but I'll admit I honestly did not want to believe it!!!
-Dave
I've been through this and I used to worry about the lower power but I've come to the conclusion that all that indoor work pays off big time in the spring. I have found that I'm pretty much OK once I get outside, assuming I've done enough inside (or a mixture inside and outside). I might be a few % low on capability due to the indoor stuff but it doesn't take long to wring that out of myself once I get outside consistently (usually March around here). Also, you're obviously better off for riding indoors rather than doing nothing.daveryanwyoming said:
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Turning off your brain is the operative phrase, for sure Rick. I like action movies for this as I really get into them and almost forget where I am sometimes. It's good for some L2/L3 time and I often don't really have to think about keeping the power up...bonus: when some really big action section comes on, all the sudden - holy smokes - I'm riding in L4 and didn't even know it.rmur17 said:
I've done this climb for real many times so the video footage on this DVD means something to me.
TickAlex Simmons said:I was thinking about putting this one up again soon Nomad - you beat me to it!
My 2008 cycling goals are pretty simple at this stage:
1. Turn a crank on a bicycle on a trainer and rack up my first TSS point for a long time.
2. Ride outdoors.
3. Start racing again, especially on the track.
I can't really put dates to those as so much depends on how my leg progresses (and when I can get a suitable bike leg made and fitted). Once I have a feel of how I am progressing, I might be a bit more specific with the goals.
