Kloden farked again



thunder said:
crank, remember it was less a uni and more their tmob operational division in this context - dual roles.
The T-Mobile Vitamins and Minerals Research Program.
 
Crankyfeet said:
You'd think that the truth is going to eventually come out in any case.
It's only a matter of time before someone at Freiburg is asked what was in the package. They might not even have to do that. Investigators could match the shipment with Freiburg's purchases or inventory.
 
Bro Deal said:
It's only a matter of time before someone at Freiburg is asked what was in the package. They might not even have to do that. Investigators could match the shipment with Freiburg's purchases or inventory.
but the uni would not have had a catalogued inventory. They would have got stuff for nix from the big pharma industries.

One of the major sponsors of German cycling was a german pharma.
 
thunder said:
but the uni would not have had a catalogued inventory. They would have got stuff for nix from the big pharma industries.

One of the major sponsors of German cycling was a german pharma.
Do they make EPO? Someone has records. It's not like they send some fool down to the production line to yank product and send it Freiburg.

Even crooks have to keep track of their money.
 
Bro Deal said:
Do they make EPO? Someone has records. It's not like they send some fool down to the production line to yank product and send it Freiburg.

Even crooks have to keep track of their money.
I dont know, sales reps generally have some promo stock to hand out to GPs. It would be just like this, purposely untraceable.
 
thunder said:
I dont know, sales reps generally have some promo stock to hand out to GPs. It would be just like this, purposely untraceable.
Too conspiratorial. Before the Chinese got into producing cheap EPO, the stuff was expensive. Sa was HGH. T-Mobile must have been consuming tens upon tens of thousands of dollars of supplies per year. Even two or three hundred thousands dollars worth. Postal flushed $25K worth of product down the toilet once when they thought the police were about to raid the team.

Money had to have been flowing from T-Mobile to Freiburg.
 
Bro Deal said:
Too conspiratorial. Before the Chinese got into producing cheap EPO, the stuff was expensive. Sa was HGH. T-Mobile must have been consuming tens upon tens of thousands of dollars of supplies per year. Even two or three hundred thousands dollars worth. Postal flushed $25K worth of product down the toilet once when they thought the police were about to raid the team.

Money had to have been flowing from T-Mobile to Freiburg.
Perhaps it was a soft dollar payment. All the professors got free phones and 1000 minutes free a month... :cool::p
 
Bro Deal said:
Too conspiratorial. Before the Chinese got into producing cheap EPO, the stuff was expensive. Sa was HGH. T-Mobile must have been consuming tens upon tens of thousands of dollars of supplies per year. Even two or three hundred thousands dollars worth. Postal flushed $25K worth of product down the toilet once when they thought the police were about to raid the team.

Money had to have been flowing from T-Mobile to Freiburg.
perhaps they paid consulting fees, and the pharmas thought of it as endorsement.

So, Freiburg was not out of pocket for the time staff committed, and nor from drug bills.