Off course. That's what he said. What I'm trying to do is make parody of all this.ad9898 said:I think he is looking at the following, of course I could be wrong ,the 2009 Tour de France, the Amgen Tour of California, the Paris-Nice, the Tour de Georgia, and the Dauphine-Libere,
This year's Tour was boring as hell.limerickman said:I agree.
I thought that this years TDF was excellent from a cycling fans viewpoint because the overall result was up for grabs right up until the final road stage.
And that sort of situation makes the TDF more compelling and it is better viewing.
In addition spectator numbers at roadside were higher than 2007.
This was probably down to the fact that the racing was more competitive (clean?) and because most of the French riders were doing well in terms of stage finishes and in terms of GC.
if you were believe some.............there was no one watching the 2008 TDF!
Basso is not riding the Tour. Although it would be funny watching both of them in the grupetto trying to avoid the cut off time.fscyclist said:I think Armstrong watched this year's tour and after that pathetic display convinced himself he could still win. I think he would have won this year if he raced. Next year is different. We are looking at Basso and Contador returning along with improvement and maturation among the Schleck clan, and I don't think he can match them. I wouldn't be surprised at a top ten, however.
I don't know his motivation for returning, but I would think ASO and the media machine around cycling would applaud it. For no other reason, it brings interest to the race.
I wouldn't underestimate LA's motivation and tolerance for pain - more importantly I think he revels in inflicting pain in his opponents.
whiteboytrash said:Basso is not riding the Tour. Although it would be funny watching both of them in the grupetto trying to avoid the cut off time.
I have it on good authority that Armstrong is bringing new sponsors to the team and there will be an anti-cancer theme.ad9898 said:I don't think this would happen, he will have a pretty good idea before he starts what his condition is, he will have a raft of data from his previous tour wins
I think if he is on the start line, expect at least a top 5 finish.
Yes an usual doped Lance would have won the last TDF where dopers were on a smallest program than the precedent years. So Lance's judgement is false and stupid, his come-back, especially when annoucing the will to win, is very bad for cycling. The pharmacy and the race to PED is back too!fscyclist said:I think Armstrong watched this year's tour and after that pathetic display convinced himself he could still win. I think he would have won this year if he raced. Next year is different. We are looking at Basso and Contador returning along with improvement and maturation among the Schleck clan, and I don't think he can match them. I wouldn't be surprised at a top ten, however.
I don't know his motivation for returning, but I would think ASO and the media machine around cycling would applaud it. For no other reason, it brings interest to the race.
I wouldn't underestimate LA's motivation and tolerance for pain - more importantly I think he revels in inflicting pain in his opponents.
Even if Ullrich wanted to come back, I don't think he will be allowed with the investigation even though it's officially closed. It might be reopened if he announces a comeback. But who would he ride for? I know Columbia wouldn't take him.jhuskey said:Well, Jan is training at the moment for a fact. His races will be several charity races the first October 3 in Stuttgart.
I believe it is a retirement/farewell race in honor of Weseman.
I would love to see an Artmstrong vs Ullrich race one more time and not a wheelchair race so................ sometime soon.
how many times have i heard that?jhuskey said:Jan is actually looks pretty fit right now...
Maybe you are right he want to prove that he could have won clean if the rest of the field were clean too. Of course he can' t stated directly that he won with doping as his contenders.Grater said:The only reason I can think of Lance coming back is he has realised the sport is getting cleaned up.
His conscious got the better of him and he wants to prove he can ride clean and riding clean and winning would make a sense of wellbeing to him that he can win without cheating like he did in 1999 - 2005.
It will also get the doubts away that he ever cheated.
Good move. But there is just one problem. He won't win.
A breath of fresh air this is most certainly not. It's the stale stench of a half-rotten corpse that refuses to lie down and die (that's a metaphor in case you're too dumb to get it). One day Armstrong the man will be dead (as will you and as will I) but the Tour de France will still be going strong and the Texan will just be another of the names in the history books. Americans like you will have long since stopped caring about or enjoying cycling and the Tour in particular but "Eurotards" like me will still be enjoying the racing, standing at the road and cheering.bobke said:This year's Tour was boring as hell.
I think only eurotards found it exciting.
Second rate riders wheelsucking each other to death.
No, it is not exciting to see guys who would have been definitively dropped by Lance at the bottom of a climb in any of the Tours "fight it out" until the last boring slow ascent of the next ridiculously slow mountain.
Apparently I was not the only one who thought so:
ARMSTRONG:
“It wasn’t a lightbulb going off,” he says, but a realization, combined with a gradual frustration “with the rhetoric coming out of the Tour de France. Not just the Tour on TV but the domestic press, the international press, the pace, the speeds at which participants rode. It’s not a secret. I mean, the pace was slow.
This is such a breath of fresh air.
Cant wait to hear all the whining and moaning and gnashing of teeth.
Let the fun commence guys.
Your worst nightmare has returned.
bobke said:This year's Tour was boring as hell.
I think only eurotards found it exciting.
Second rate riders wheelsucking each other to death.
No, it is not exciting to see guys who would have been definitively dropped by Lance at the bottom of a climb in any of the Tours "fight it out" until the last boring slow ascent of the next ridiculously slow mountain.
Apparently I was not the only one who thought so:
ARMSTRONG:
“It wasn’t a lightbulb going off,” he says, but a realization, combined with a gradual frustration “with the rhetoric coming out of the Tour de France. Not just the Tour on TV but the domestic press, the international press, the pace, the speeds at which participants rode. It’s not a secret. I mean, the pace was slow.
This is such a breath of fresh air.
Cant wait to hear all the whining and moaning and gnashing of teeth.
Let the fun commence guys.
Your worst nightmare has returned.
This pisses me off too. He announces that it's not about him, it's about cancer. That way if ASO refuse Astana a place in the Tour he can say, so you Frenchies are pro-cancer cowards. Call me a cynic but if the man told me he was on fire and I'd set him alight myself I still wouldn't believe a word he said.whiteboytrash said:I have it on good authority that Armstrong is bringing new sponsors to the team and there will be an anti-cancer theme.
ad9898 said:Well this something worth watching, he said the pace of the 2008 tour was slow,
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bobke said:This year's Tour was boring as hell.
I think only eurotards found it exciting.
Second rate riders wheelsucking each other to death.
bobke said:Apparently I was not the only one who thought so:
ARMSTRONG:
“It wasn’t a lightbulb going off,” he says, but a realization, combined with a gradual frustration “with the rhetoric coming out of the Tour de France. Not just the Tour on TV but the domestic press, the international press, the pace, the speeds at which participants rode. It’s not a secret. I mean, the pace was slow.
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